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Source: President Mahmoud Abbas cancels planned meeting with President Biden after hospital strike (apnews.com)

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ambulances and private cars rushed some 350 casualties from the al-Ahli blast to Gaza City’s main hospital, al-Shifa, already overwhelmed with wounded from other strikes, said its director, Mohammed Abu Selmia. The wounded were laid onto bloody floors, screaming in pain.

“We are squeezing five beds into a single tiny room. We need equipment, we need medicine, we need beds, we need anesthesia, we need everything,” Abu Selmia said, warning that the fuel supply for the hospital’s generators will run out Wednesday. “I think Gaza’s medical sector will collapse within hours.”

This is heart wrenching and sickening.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

The sheer gall to bomb a hospital. Fucking sick. I’ll be calling all my representatives tonight to ask them if they really want to continue to enable these war criminals with military aid. The inhumanity is exhausting

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

They know they fucked up. That's why they're spreading FUD about it being a Hamas rocket or a Hamas HQ or whatever.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

If Hamas had rockets of this explosive power, they would be launching them at Israel every day.

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[-] heyspencerb@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.

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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Check the updated news. Was a misfired rocket by Islamic Jihad

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

That is one sides claim, the other side claims the opposite. We do not know facts yet and its not helpful to pretend we do.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If we don’t believe the IDF, then maybe we shouldn’t believe Hamas either. Yet this is the 5th post I see claiming Israel bombed the hospital (which is just the statement of Hamas, a terrorist org killing civilians on both sides), with hundreds of upvotes and enraged comments.

[-] Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

you seriously think palestinian islamic jihad is more trust worthy than IDF?

and do you realistically think they will release statemaking them look bad?

surely hamas has claimed responsibility for taking creddit for bombing their own hospitals in the past and NOT blamed it on israelis right?

this instance is biased as fuck.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It's not biased to say "facts are good". I don't think anything, I don't believe anything. I wait for facts and try not to disseminate misinformation. How about you?

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Israel isn't known to be honest either. Just look at the killing Shireen Abu Akleh.

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

It's the fucking IDF, I would trust Satan if they contradicted him.

[-] legion02@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yes and I trust neither side. IDF is historically untrustworthy.

[-] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Imagine thinking the IDF is trustworthy at all.

You think Israel will say "Yeah, we bombed the hospital and killed hundreds of people"?

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[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Spoiler: if they have an R next to their name, they most certainly do.

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[-] DarkroomDoc@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Hamas put their headquarters in the hospital

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital

[-] foofiepie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

That’s the one where patients went to after the bombing. The one hit, according to the article, was the Al-Ahli Hospital.

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[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 year ago

Assuming Israel is responsible, they have a lot of nerve calling anyone else a terrorist.

[-] heyspencerb@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

If you're going to repost this random guess, at least fix your typo between copy paste.

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago

Yes, that is exactly what was implied by the first four words of my comment. Maybe learn to read before jumping on the pro-Israel bandwagon.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, USInt seems to have arrived at the conclusion that nobody was right.

Israel didn't do it, but neither did Hamas. It would seem that the bombing was carried out by an entirely different militia of Jihadi Palestinians, which if true could indicate that these were Boko Haram types that blew the thing because modern medical science is "too western"

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[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Last i saw it was the Israeli Jihad they were blaming it on.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

You can't convince me that's not a Freudian slip.

[-] skhayfa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Here is the video of the bombing. https://youtube.com/shorts/cCSugJpGdO4

[-] jungle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The video doesn't show what caused the exposition.

[-] skhayfa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Put the sound on and tell me without any shame that it's rockets.

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

If it isn't a rocket, then WTF is the sound before the explosion?

[-] skhayfa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

A proper missile

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Oh, yeah. I thought you meant to say that it was explosives planted there.

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[-] Peaty@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Nation states commit acts of war not acts of terror. If you think about it any act you would call terrorism would also be causus belli.

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 year ago

Any violence knowingly committed against civilians by a nation state should be considered an act of terrorism.

[-] Peaty@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

That is also an act of war. National militaries don't commit acts of terrorism. They commit crimes against humanity, war crimes, or the justification of war aka causus belli.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

You missed the key word there which was should be.

Attacking a hospital is outright terrorism imo and has no place in war. Attack a supply depot or some other strategic point but a fucking hospital? A place dedicated to treating any human being regardless of politics, status, etc. blown up.

Dogs. The lot of them. May the toll of the war bell ring loudest and the longest among them and each of their supporters.

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[-] Skates@feddit.nl 21 points 1 year ago

Nation states

Personally, I don't recognize the 1948 decision to create this nation state out of thin air, displacing an already existing nation and illegally seizing their land. So I'm cool to keep talking about it as a terrorist organization, yeah? Okay, thanks.

[-] Guydht@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Don't recognize it? There are 9 million people living in it, and worldwide recognition. Also the 48 decision was UN backed, meaning the nations of the world think otherwise. Jeez, you can not like someone while still admitting their existence.

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

All aid, except medical help for their own injured, to israel should be stopped in return to the hospital strike. But it wont happen because the US likes to strike hospitals as well.

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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Story has been updated:

KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Israeli military says it had no involvement in an explosion that killed hundreds of people at a Gaza City hospital and that the blast was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.

The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza says an Israeli airstrike caused the blast, and that it killed some 500 people, many of whom had sought shelter from an ongoing Israeli offensive.

The Israeli military, however, said Palestinian militants had fired a barrage of rockets near the hospital at the time.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Guardian mentioned that this much damage with one rocket would likely go above the usual capabilities of Hamas.

Not saying that it couldn't be that, but certainly something to consider.

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[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

On the one hand, bombing a hospital is pretty brazen even for Israel, especially as your most important ally is en route for a visit, and the explanation of a Hamas rocket going astray does seem plausible. On the other hand, I'm not inclined to trust the word of a country that has proudly cut off food and water for 2.2 million people for over a week now. You don't get the benefit of the doubt when your actively committing war crimes. Also it may not have been intentional, a IDF pilot could have just missed a target or gone rogue. I'm sure no UN inspectors will ever be let in to examine the scene to make a determination, so we'll probably never know the truth. It probably doesn't matter much, the dead are dead either way, the grieving families will grieve either way, and all sides of the conflict will believe what they want to further their political ends, including Hezbollah using potentially using this as a justification for a broader conflict. It's just tragedy on top of tragedy.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel bombed a Palestinian hospital in 2014, what was their initial response?

The Israeli military denied initial reports that its forces were responsible for the strikes, saying instead that the bombing was the result of rockets misfired by Palestinian militants — while Hamas cast blame back at Israel.

Sound familiar?

Shocker, it came out that they did in fact bomb the hospital and killed children. Israel will always blame Palestine for its mistakes.

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[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is not plausible it is a Hamas rocket.

Only modern munitions have the power to destroy hospitals and kill hundreds of people.

If Hamas had such rockets, they would be launching them at Israel every day.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Photos purportedly from al-Ahli Hospital shared widely on social video showed fire engulfing the building, widespread damage and bodies scattered in the wreckage.

Hamas, which sparked the latest war with an attack last week that killed more than 1,400 Israelis, called Tuesday’s hospital strike “a horrific massacre.” It said in a statement that most of the casualties were displaced families, patients, children and women.

With Israel barring entry of water, fuel and food into Gaza since Hamas’ brutal attack last week, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken secured an agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss creation of a mechanism for delivering aid to the territory’s 2.3 million people.

“The return of the hostages, which is sacred in our eyes, is a key component in any humanitarian efforts,” he told reporters, without elaborating whether Israel was demanding the release of all of the roughly 200 people Hamas abducted before allowing supplies in.

A barrage of strikes crashed into the Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza, leveling an entire block of homes and causing dozens of casualties among families inside, residents said.

Associated Press journalists Amy Teibel in Jerusalem; Abby Sewell in Beirut; Samy Magdy and Jack Jeffrey in Cairo; and Ashraf Sweilam in el-Arish, Egypt contributed to this report.

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