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[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 year ago

US President Joe Biden will once again emphasise Israel's “right and duty” to defend itself.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago
[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, definitely a step I was not expecting.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a pretty good chance this was an own goal.

Posting this before it's clear what caused this is borderline misinformation.

EDIT: this compounds the existing lack of medical supplies and equipment, already stretched extra thin after Hamas stole truckloads of fuel and medical supplies from the UN earlier this week.

[-] drekly@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've heard this somewhere before... When a Ukrainian building got blown up recently.

OH IT WAS PROBABLY THEIR OWN.

Or maybe they're just being bombed all the time?

You realise that more bombs have been dropped in Gaza this last week than an entire year of the war in Afghanistan?

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm saying wait a few hours at least, maybe a day. If it was rockets Israel will jump to publish video showing it.

You realise that more bombs have been dropped in Gaza this last week than an entire year of the war in Afghanistan?

We're in a thread about an AJ article so let's base it on the same source: 7423 in all of 2019.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/1/29/record-7423-us-bombs-dropped-in-afghanistan-in-2019-report

And only 6000 in the last week:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/13/when-a-family-dies-under-israels-bombs-part-of-gazas-history-disappears

So not yet, but it is a lot of bombs.

[-] drekly@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beautiful cherry picking. "Only" lmao.

I'm sorry the Israelis aren't overtaking the record-breaking years but they're still dropping more than the bombs dropped in Afghanistan most years. In a week.

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago

Bombing a hospital is half a step behind carpet bombing the whole place. Did not expect it to escalate like this, so I second the motion to get verification

[-] Wilshire@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel claims an Islamic Jihad rocket misfired and hit a hidden ammo dump in or near the hospital.

Update:

IDF: An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.

Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

And likewise, Hamas claims this was an Israeli airstrike. That's why independent verification is so critical.

[-] Wilshire@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Update

Videos published by various sources, alleged to show the Islamic Jihad rocket that hit the hospital:

https://files.catbox.moe/5w06c3.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/foji0h.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/g041a1.mp4

IDF: An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.

Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • The first video shows multiple rockets and an explosion
  • The second video shows one with no explosion
  • The third shows one with an explosion in the air first

None of these videos line up with each other, so at least two of them must be irrelevant if not all three.

Meanwhile, the closest video shows an incoming whistle: https://twitter.com/i/status/1714366113818038412

[-] Wilshire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The Al Jazeera video has been the most cited

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

That's about as believable as thinking all those oligarchs in Russia really did jump out of a window

[-] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Of course, what do you expect them to do, admit their own fuck up. This would end up the same as the unfortunate killings of a bunch of journalists and their "independent" investigation of the killings. And it happens that all those journalists were critical of Israel's policies. Quite the coincidence, right?

[-] filister@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

So how did this independent investigation should work exactly, when all the border crossings are closed?

Oh wait Palestinians also don't have access to water, fuel or electricity, they cannot escape to a neighbouring country, they are told to go south, and then bombed even there. But of course none of this is considered a war crime because Israel has the right to defend themselves and apparently the right to designate what amounts to a war crime too.

[-] Wilshire@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Hamas says it was IDF, IDF says it ways the Islamic Jihad.

What's certain is that this whole situation is FUBAR.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago
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