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[-] furion@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

I have to disagree with a few points the article made.

First, Canadians do not define ourselves as 'Not America'. The author may be confused with the nickname of "America's Hat" that is given to us by Americans in jest. We define ourselves by our own culture and politeness, thank you very much. I also disagree that we seek to escape 'economic dependence' on America. I think the Buy Canadian phenomenon arose as a rebuke to the aggressive annexation comments by the President, but I don't think this extends far beyond liquor and tourism.

The author then moves on to critique Build Canada Homes, focusing on the P3 partnerships and "profit over getting as many homes built as possible". The source for this criticism comes from CUPE, which at the very least is a biased source. Further, they cite the expiration of current federal housing programs as a knock against Carney... for what reason? Part of the reason our debt has ballooned so significantly is inefficiency, over-spending, and over-promising.

Lastly, the article goes into criticizing cuts to the public service. The PS has ballooned to an unsustainable size, every manager has a manager. Austerity was part of Carney's platform, because overspending on the PS is holding back projects like infrastructure building. I don't buy the author's argument that reducing the public service is bad, especially when they claim that GA lay-offs reduce our bargaining power for trade and investment agreements. This is conjecture based off less people = bad, more people = good, which is part of the reason the PS has grown to the size it has in the first place.

Efficiencies aren't created by bloating, and this article didn't sell me on the arguments it was making. Much of the content was opinion backed by little fact, and when it was, the facts were buried in secondary sources that were not elaborated upon or related back to the original argument.

Happy to hear other opinions.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

First, Canadians do not define ourselves as ‘Not America’. The author may be confused with the nickname of “America’s Hat” that is given to us by Americans in jest. We define ourselves by our own culture and politeness, thank you very much.

While I don't feel this way, to say that this isn't a thread in the discussion around Canadian identity is just denial.

I also disagree that we seek to escape ‘economic dependence’ on America. I think the Buy Canadian phenomenon arose as a rebuke to the aggressive annexation comments by the President, but I don’t think this extends far beyond liquor and tourism.

I don't know how you could disagree with this. One of the few things people more or less universally like about Carney is his pursuit of trade relationships outside of the Canada/US trade relationship specifically to reduce our dependence on the American market. If you think we're just a bit miffed at the US and don't want to buy a few consumer goods for awhile, I think you have seriously misread the mood of the country.

The author then moves on to critique Build Canada Homes, focusing on the P3 partnerships and “profit over getting as many homes built as possible”. The source for this criticism comes from CUPE, which at the very least is a biased source.

...Do you have anything stronger than calling them a biased source? You are coming into the NDP community and suggesting that a union is an inherently untrustworthy source and just assume those reading are simply going to accept that at face value?

Part of the reason our debt has ballooned so significantly is inefficiency, over-spending, and over-promising.

Are you campaigning? This is a meaningless slogan without specifics.

Lastly, the article goes into criticizing cuts to the public service. The PS has ballooned to an unsustainable size, every manager has a manager.

According to what?

Austerity was part of Carney’s platform,

The motherfucker wrote an entire book called Value(s) to trick progressive voters into thinking he was one of them. I absolutely do not remember selling off public assets to fund government backed investment vehicles as being a major part of the platform. The guy is a deceitful snake and this post hoc rewriting of history where he was always forthrightly showing himself to be a Harperite conservative is dishonest.

because overspending on the PS is holding back projects like infrastructure building.

Oh, how is tripling the military budget going to effect that?

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Incidentally, Avi Lewis' wife, Naomi Klein, wrote a book explaining what is happening to us right now.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

He's such a neolib. Exactly what we didn't need

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago

The other option was to elect a the republican party's vestigial Prime Minister.. (Or the NDP who would be a dog that finally caught it's tail and has no idea what to do with it).

The liberals were the lesser of the 2.5 evils we have to choose from.

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago

The majority also didn't need to panic vote and oust NDP strongholds thereby giving a neo-lib banker the super majority he enjoys today. Not to mention the crappy and nepo MPs that got voted in because of the panic vote.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

Voters gave him a minority, for the record. Several former Conservative and one former NDP MPs gave him the Parliamentary majority.

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

Would he have been as close to it without so many NDP seats flipping because of the panic vote?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yes, or otherwise without the panic vote, back in December 2024 PP was slated to sail to victory.

The NDP wasn't really offering anything new at the time, they got hammered by their own policies being way too focus group workshopped (Something along the lines of: "we are gonna fight, fight fight for something, we worked together with the Liberals to get you healthcare but now they suck so we're not working with them anymore! But we still wanna finish the rollout!"). Simultaneously, the Conservative media propaganda machine was focusing on soiling Jagmeet Singh's name since Trudeau was already done for.

Lewis' message is refreshingly bold yet down-to-earth, and I have hope for the future of the NDP now, considering the Liberals are leaving that space wide open atm.

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

I agree with you, I don't even think the federal NDP even had much of a message. I still voted for my local NDP because their message was great, they just didn't win.

I'm mostly talking about the lost strongholds like on Vancouver island that were historically always NDP by a high margin with liberals barely on the map. But the panic vote swung the liberals to winning quite a few seats. Though to be fair, I think NDP would've still lost party status - it just hurt a bit more than needed

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Fair assessment for VI, that 3 or 4 way split sure did sting...

[-] albbi@piefed.ca 3 points 19 hours ago
[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

You're right, nothing super about it, it's just a majority

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