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[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

This is part of what just erodes the hope out of me. We all know there are periods of regression and periods of progress, but whatever damage is caused by the regression period is

1- Caused much more quickly than any progress.

2- Is usually beneficial to the ruling class, thus they have less of an incentive to fix it.

3- Might just become normalized, at which point you're just starting from square one all over again.

Like, age/identity verification. We are in a period of mass and widespread regression right now and age verification is making progress, eroding freedom and privacy on the internet. Do you think that when we enter the period of progress, the age verification systems of today will just be reverted? Fuck no. They'll stay. They'll become normal. And the fight against them will need to start from scratch, with an ever bigger amount of opposition.

I'm really jealous of the people who can maintain hope.

[-] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Why change the system when there is so much money to be made...

Political corruption is now embedded so deeply into the American system.

Foreign nations buy politicians, rich buy policies. The supreme court are now an extension of the republican party and those free holidays sure do help also they have jobs for life.

The president could nuke every blue state in America and not commit a crime.

It's fucked, it's a platform for dictatorship and corruption and political funding and grift has exacerbated it. Of course a party that has languished in powerless opposition isn't going to give any of that up. Of course they won't stop themselves insider trading.

And the military, they pledge a meaningless oath and are too weak to put an end to a tyrannical system.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 19 points 9 hours ago

Didn't Biden undo a lot of shit that Trump has done during his first term?

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

His repeated platform was to raise the minimum wage.

So... here we are. Ds couldn't be bothered.

BoTh of our parties should be dismantled, our "labor party" is shit, just like our "limited government" party.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago

Performatively he did, then reinstated most of what he dropped. Did nothing with his tax cuts for the rich, which checks out, as VP he worked directly with McConnel to muster votes to make the bush tax cuts for the rich permanent. He kept his border policies, war policies, etc. Continued to lie about the condition of the economy. Blue Fascism is a close relative of the red version

[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 43 points 10 hours ago

Only in amurica would they sell people on the right to be fired for no reason and call it "right to work"

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Getting fired is right to work. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

They call trusting your ignorance "faith" and its something you absolutely need lol

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[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It doesn't matter anymore. The federal government is set to decay over the next decades. Eventually the federal government will lose a lot of economic leverage and blue states will just start doing shit on their own regardless of SCOTUS rulings. People in red states will get locked into a psuedo-feudal hellscape.

I'm getting out while I still can.

You accelerationists are getting what you wanted. Its just not going to result in what you thought.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You accelerationists are getting what you wanted. Its just not going to result in what you thought.

Accelerations didnt want destruction, they want the system to meaningfully evolve in the most expedient, most peaceful, most Just way possible. We stand in opposition to the "things will naturally just fix themselves if you make sure to vote dem in the primaries" crowd. (And to be clear, the republicans are hopeless)

[-] orioler25@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

What a fascinating comment. Liberal apathy, "it doesn't matter, the violence is inevitable," combined with some projected guilt onto a group of people not present in this post "accelerationists." Could you explain how accepting that fascist Dems will enact this violence and making decisions that require that violence to happen to make sense does not qualify as "accelerationism" in the vague way it is applied here?

I normally wouldn't comment on this because, honestly, it's usually pointless for me, but this comment along with your profile provides a great example of how liberals subscribe to fascism. It's worth noting that liberals historically get away with writing off "red states" because of the incredible wealth inequality between them (deserved in these narratives, of course, for their moral impurity of supporting the bad fascist party instead of the good fascist party despite everyone's purported understanding that the Republican party is predatory and anti-democratic) and the disproportionate African American population there relative to many "blue states." To prescribe "running" as a solution to genocide and socioeconomic disparity is, quite frankly, cruel; especially so if you consider how Native American and indigenous nations within US borders came to settle and survive where they are today. To suggest that the people who stay either to fight or live with their kin and land instead of run are absolutely powerless to defend themselves is about as clear of a settler-colonial imagination of history and human life that you can ask for. If we look at your profile more, we can see how deep this goes. Ecofascists tend to apply anti-natalism, and apathetic or doomer language to their futurities because it naturalizes the violence that is needed to maintain a capitalist, liberal system before it has happened while salvaging the perceived morality of its subscribers by constructing it as a result of the innate impurity of humanity rather than an imaginary future built from very specific values and assumptions. The kicker with your profile is the term "xenofeminist," which draws specifically on technological posthumanism in its criticism of gender and heteronormativity. For those unaware, posthumanism is meant to effectively decenter humans (and therefore, settler-colonial norms that commodify the entire material world and all life in it) but more often reproduces liberal narratives where settler-colonialism, capitalism, and imperialism are natural human behaviours and that humanity is unretrievable from that impure nature save for the intentional transformation of the species (I hope I don't have to explain more how this easily results in eugenicist arguments). Many people who subscribe to it end up advocating for some immaterial, often technocratic solutionism. That you've combined that with some "soft" (unclear what you mean by that) anti-natalism, which ecofascists often use to once again construct humanity as the innate cause of capitalism's harm and legitimize genocide by an imagined necessity of "population control." All of that with some fun little death cult "vacuum decay" doomer talk. What a package here.

So, you've managed to create a narrative that, while apparently attempting to challenge or criticize fascist ideals, subscribes heavily to fascist historical narratives where the suffering and even eradication of particular groups is inevitable and in service of a more prosperous future for all, liberal constructions and relationalities of the material world that ultimately views any world that isn't beholden to human desires (including humanity as a species) as not one worth existing in, and explicitly discounts the death and suffering of racialized groups in the US that have historically been the targets of genocide for centuries. All of this while removing yourself from any sense of responsibility, since you cannot change the entire system by your will, and are powerless over the trajectory of these political and cultural developments and attributing guilt to some other group of people who also do not wield substantial power in this system and who subscribe to political action rooted in the same sense of inevitability, except in service of abolishing liberalism instead of maintaining it (assumingly, when you say that you hate "left or right" accelerationists and also want to forgive the people who didn't vote for Kamala Harris [how gracious] and view the election of Donald Trump as the cause of these events and not a symptom, it's difficult to believe you're talking about any other group than socialists or anarchists since fascists are inherently "accelerationist" ideologically). A crucial element in liberal complicity with fascism as well as how many of them advocate for ecofascism is that learned helplessness that only views total, nearly baptismal change in a liberal system as the only goal worth struggling for. For many privileged liberals who are unused to fighting, the end of the world is preferable to struggling to achieve less than utopia. Whether you want to or not, you have apparently adopted fascism into your imagination of the future.

I don't fit into whatever "accelerationis," is supposed to be, so please skip that as a response (and do not feel the need to respond at all), but I am deeply troubled by the amount of liberals I see who are going full fascist because of their disillusionment with this system; as though that isn't the strategy that Democrats have adopted. Since I actually am in groups that fascists target and have been targetted by them my entire life, I'm understandably motivated to point out this kind of hypocrisy as I run into very many liberals who claim to know better for my people while siding with groups who want murder before anything else.

edit: Also, I want to make it clear that the intent here isn't to single you out as an intentionally and irredeemably evil deceiver, but to demonstrate to you as well as other liberals how the worldview that you have been socialised to believe has primed you to adopt fascistic thinking even when you do not want to be a fascist. Liberalism and fascism are inextricably linked because they have the same ideological underpinnings of humanity's value and relationship with the material world. People who believe liberalism is inherently about democracy and acceptance, as they have been taught to believe, are not going to interrogate why that system has not produced an equal and benevolent society and therefore often conclude it is because it is not possible.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm staying, I was born here and I will die here.

You don't realize that the "acceleration" is international? Oh dear.

If it wasn't for Deutsch bank, Trump would have died in ignominy. The accelerators are global... you can't run away from Earth. Good luck!

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 9 hours ago

Of course there are two parties. They create the illusion of choice necessary for the political ratchet - one party to drive things to the right, the other as controlled opposition to obstruct movement back to the left.

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