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[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Did everyone in the comments suffer brain damage and forget about Hertz and its bullshit AI “scratch and dent” scanners? Or the hotels charging non-smokers $500 “smoking” fees because an AI smoke detector said so? Do people defending this shitty company not see the obvious and unavoidable conflict of interest companies have to make a system like this overly sensitive in order to rack up fines? It would be one thing if the threat was a ban from the service, but it’s just so clearly an excuse to generate more profits I’m shocked this needs to be pointed out.

[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago

I fail to see the problem with this. It is their property you are renting, and they are telling you to not fuck with it too much. Looks very reasonable to me. And all of those can be detected without any violation of privacy too.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 hours ago

IMO it kind of depends on whether their 'riding violation' detection system is overly sensitive, this could be a reasonable response or absolute bullshit depending on what the scooter pilot actually did.

[-] waldfee@feddit.org 9 points 11 hours ago

Agreed, but

without any violation of privacy

just seems wrong. They know your payment info, your habits, the places you visit, the routes you take, and exactly how you're using the scooter. Not to mention whatever the app might be doing in background. Their only way to violate privacy even more would be by filming the driver and the surroundings and selling all the data

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, fair enough not wanting people to take their equipment to a skate park or otherwise abuse it.

People on this platform have some bizarre opinions sometimes.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 6 points 12 hours ago

I don't understand how jumping curbs is supposed to be a problem, that's just something you have to do to get around sometimes. It also seems like something that hitting potholes would easily get confused for.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

You can get around without having to jump curbs, and potholes are also avoidable.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

Scooters are supposed to be on the street. There is no need to jump any curbs.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, I ride a bike a lot and escooters usually are treated the same as far as road laws go where they are allowed. Can't think of when I have had to jump a kerb.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 3 points 12 hours ago

Where I'm from there's still a plenty of combined pedestrian/bike paths that have an annoyingly high curb after every crosswalk.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I'll say again. Scooters are supposed to be on the street. Not on bike paths or sidewalks.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 9 points 12 hours ago

Well you'd be wrong. The law says they belong on bike paths here, and a lot of the time sidewalks are combined paths where bikes are supposed to go.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

No no no, you missed the part where it says “lemmy.world” after their name, so their perspective is always correct. Read the Fediverse manual.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago
[-] turdas@suppo.fi 7 points 11 hours ago

Finland, but it's the same in all of the EU. Scooters are legally the same as bikes.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

For real. Like, they aren't even giving you a fine. This is a polite warning to not do dumb shit on an expensive e-scooter. Beyond not wanting the things damaged, they probably also don't want customers losing control and concussing themselves. Scooters are absurdly easy to crash as is.

This post is stupid.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Scooters are absurdly easy to crash as is.

Agreed with all of your comment but wanted to discuss this. A vehicle you are unfamiliar with is easy to crash and a rented scooter can have weird weight distribution. Still, like with a rented car it comes down to how reckless you are being as a driver. We (and I include myself in this group) tend to generally be a lot more comfortable being reckless on bikes and scooters than in cars in part because the potential damage from a bike crash is trivial compared to the potential damage from a car crash. So like, it's likely not a simple, black and white single variable issue like "how bad a driver are they" in their database

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Now I'm just going to grind harder. Tell me again and I'm hitting the half-pipe.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm just gonna keep on grinding forever

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 35 points 13 hours ago

How is it dystopian to not damage things that don't belong to you? Ride the scooter like a normal person, or buy your own for stunting...

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 hours ago

And when you get warned anyway after not treating the scooter poorly?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Take all the copper, duh

[-] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 4 points 8 hours ago

What they don't want is either you or somebody else to sue them because they know they're enabling you to use an alt method of transport that offers no real guardrails.

[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago

How is everyone acting like the poster is at fault here? How do you know their AI detection system isn't bullshit and they didn't drive entirely reasonably, and the detection system is actually the problem?

Use some common sense, people... Both things are possible here, a reckless driver or an overzealous detection system.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I don't think it's corporate dick-sucking to say that if you use an e-scooter share, it's not dystopian that the company administering them tries to track if you're using them in a negligent way that causes unnecessary wear. It's not yours.

The fact these corporations are running this kind of thing is itself problematic, but I also wouldn't object if a government-administrated e-scooter share tried to detect poor behavior on a piece of equipment you don't own.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 12 hours ago

I would be more accepting of escooter rentals if it wasn't the only legal option to use an escooter in the UK. It's fucking bullshit that they are essentially given a monopoly on renting a method of transport.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

The things they listed are not negligent, and not even about wearing tear, bet you it's about insurance. Liability insurance for personal injury.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Burnouts aren't negligent and wear-causing? Do I need to stand behind one long enough before I can understand this logic?

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago

I mean, get your own scooter and you can do all the burnouts and hit all the curbs you want.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 12 hours ago

It's illegal to use your own here, only allowed to rent one from which ever company has the monopoly to rent them out in your area. Or can't use them at all as there isn't anyone renting them out in your area.

Of course because there is no legal option to use your own many just do it illegally.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago

That's like an entirely different set of dystopian problems than a company protecting their assets from abuse. Sorry your laws are fucked up.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

You can own nothing and be happy about it, which looks like it's going to be the case with you. Giving a corporation the benefit of the doubt ha.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

You could also own a scooter and be happy about it. Because then nobody would be telling you how to ride it.

[-] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 19 points 13 hours ago

DANCING IS FORBIDDEN

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago
[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 8 points 11 hours ago

How about don't break rental shit?

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

I hate the scooter kids who do this shit

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 9 points 13 hours ago

It's not long before "Abuse you like a rented scooter" becomes a new idiom.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 8 points 13 hours ago

I met someone that said that there are cracked apps that will allow you to "rent" these for free

[-] vext01@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago

Stop taking rentals down the skate park.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Stop taking skate parks down to the rentals

this post was submitted on 13 May 2026
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