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Heartwarming: the worst people you know are fighting
I think my irony meter just broke. The company that takes freely published papers* and paywalls them for extortionate profit is mad that that someone else is making money off free content?
I propose a trial by mortal combat. It's the only logical solution.
*You'll be hard pressed to find a published researcher who thinks well of the Elsevier distribution monopoly, and it's even harder to find one that won't send you a PDF copy for free if you just ask for it.
By freely published you mean papers that are published by paying them, right?
They take money for papers to be published, they force researchers to freely peer review, and then they paywall the fuck out of that paper. It's one of the biggest scams I've ever read about, 10 years ago... Thank god computer science, math and physics (basically most STEM) have arXiv...
There's no irony there. It's what Elsevier does. They have no qualms about looting research budgets and sabotaging science in the process. They won't make an exception for open source AI.
Indeed. I'm not sure who to root against in this one.
I am truly hoping that they will destroy each other. These are two tumors of our civilization. One is lodged in our society and is eating our humanity and social interactions, the other is eating away our knowledge and innovation.
Both.
They also have the worst website that never works even if you have access
I would agree, that some parts of the Elsevier website are quite shit but I would not come even close to saying its unusable in any form.
but can both of them lose?
Meta must win this. Everything else would be a disaster.
let them fight
Stalin suing Hitler. I'm rooting for both of them to lose.
Rare Elsevier W
this post was submitted on 11 May 2026
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