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Error in the text: 1000mW laser with 532nm wavelength which is green light.

1000nm light is infrared.

Cross posted in https://lemmy.ca/post/64612634

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago

I know that Xwitter is usually a reliable source, but 1000nm is outside visual range and therefore not green. Green lasers in the ~500nm range will absolutely damage a camera sensor, but you'll need good aim and sustained illumination.

If you actually want to do this, look at the NUBM44-V2 laser diode. 7 watts of output power and around $30 on eBay. Another $50 or so for a driver, heat sink, and lens and you can burn out cameras in seconds (you can also burn out your eyes so a good set of laser goggles is essential).

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also make sure your friends have laser goggles, and that nobody is anywhere downrange if you're trying this. It takes way longer to blind a camera with these than it does to blind a human/animal, and it will turn minor vandalism charges into felonious assault.

[-] zeejoo@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 week ago

This is why I advocate for the anti-surveillance method of "hit camera with big stick"

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

"Heave rock at bad thing" really does cut to the primal core of the species. Thog not believe how much copper is in mammoth.

[-] notabot@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

nobody is anywhere downrange

Reflections can also blind, so make sure no-one, including you, are uprange, or siderange (to stretch a wordform to breaking point) either.

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They ostensibly meant mW rather than "nm wavelength" based on the image, but they might not be the brightest laser in the activist's pocket.

Edit:

Jason Bassler is co-founder of The Free Thought Project and has been featured in such publications as Rolling Stone, Reason, Infowars, RT, MIC and The Tom Woods Show.

Checks out.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

535nm for most/all of my greens.

I do have one of the old 1000mw Wicked Laser blues as well, however, which I think is 445nm.

Oh yeah. And my engraver is 100 watts of infrared (1084nm?), not milliwatts, although the range is probably a bit crap for this sort of thing and it's not exactly concealable. You'd also want to pack rather a long extension cord.

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[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

What would be the type of laser that you should most keep away from camera sensors?

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Brutal honesty here: if you can't figure that out on your own, you really really REALLY should not be playing around with high power lasers.

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[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

Silenced .22LR rifle.

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[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yall make sure you're not visible on another camera when you try this - it's not like they won't be able to figure out when and where you were when you did it. FLOCKs are usually in high camera-density areas like parking lots and strip malls and such, and there's a lot of pressure to address vandalism against the surveillance apparatus.

[-] slowmolaggins@thelemmy.club 59 points 1 week ago

In my town, roads have potholes deep enough to cause damage to cars. Many intersections have been down and operating as 4 way stops for months. But somehow there's money in the budget to do this shit. I think some vandalism might be in order to teach priorities.

[-] Murse@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The likelihood that you're going to get caught anyway, this might be a better situation for an "act like you belong" approach.

Hi-vis vest, hard hat, a ladder, couple safety cones, and some tools. Just waltz right up and run a half-inch drill bit through the lens. Pack up and move on to the next one.

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Everyone knows that construction workers famously never have their phones with them so complete the look by leaving yours at home.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago

Just smash. Doesn't matter how. Smash smash smash. Or cover with paint or an oily plastic bag. Or just smash. They are always like 8 feet up. Smash.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Just smash. Doesn't matter how. Smash smash smash. Or cover with paint or an oily plastic bag. Or just smash.

Basically my dating strategy as well

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[-] Spezi@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago

It would be interesting to train an image recognition algorithm on detecting flock cameras, build a raspberry pi with two servos and put it all in a nice box to carry around. For research purposes of course.

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

I mean the whole point of flock is that they can track you everywhere. Destroying their cameras doesn't destroy the footage.

If you destroy their cameras they will just trace your movements backwards until they find a way to identify you.

You need to find a way to do it surreptitiously so it's not clear who is doing it, and they won't be able to figure it out by process of elimination by seeing who is commonly present when a camera iss destroyed.

[-] Eric 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If this were really true, there would be no crime right now. Nancy Guthrie has been missing for months now despite the perpetrator being caught on camera in an affluent neighborhood where there would be many Ring, Flock etc. cameras. These companies overpromise and underdeliver as they all do. Their main purpose is get people to pay them. They are much less competent than they claim to be.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Possibly, but I don't wanna risk my freedom on them being incompetent rather than corrupt.

[-] Eric 7 points 1 week ago

I just want to counter their propaganda is all

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[-] limer@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I think drone usage could solve some issues.

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[-] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I assume it's mostly Americans affected by this so, genuine question. Why buy a laser when one of your regular guns will do a better job, with the same legal ramifications?

Lasering a camera absolutely does not have the same legal ramifications as shooting a gun in public, to say nothing of the safety concerns that come with shooting bullets into the air.

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

While I 100% agree, shooting a laser powerful enough to burn camera sensors sounds like something dangerous enough that I'd be worried of a reflection blinding someone

High-power lasers are dangerous and you certainly should not operate them if you don't know what you're doing, but they are not in the same ballpark as bullets from guns. And if we're talking strictly about legal jeopardy, IDK I'm not a lawyer but I imagine a prosecutor would have a hard time convincing a jury that a laser is as dangerous as a gun. Not saying it couldn't happen, but if I had to go to trial with one or the other I know what my preference would be.

[-] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

“Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I’d like to present you with evidence of why a laser is, in fact, more dangerous than a gun. Please turn your attention to the screen:”

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[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because not only are guns expensive and quite difficult to learn to shoot accurately, shooting at things in crowded areas is likely going to kill someone? And is much more illegal than using a laser pointer for vandalism, even if you don't hit someone?

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[-] modus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I want to be able to avoid these. Is this one that I should not use?

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808801522780.html

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

Lasers on AliExpress might be 1% or 100.000% of the listed power. It might be super dangerous when you think it's safe, or vice versa.

Never use AliExpress when it comes to things that need to keep you safe, or that go into your body.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

or you can saw of the pole its attached to, like they did elsewhere, or throw objects at it to break it.

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[-] brownsugga@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

i'm all for guerilla destruction of flock cameras

[-] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Any body has a link to which lasers to avoid just so I don't even come close?

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

well that sucks, i was planning to do that later. there goes my night 🫤

[-] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Just use a paintball marker. It doesn't destroy the camera, but you can paint the lens. They then have to have someone go there and clean it or wait until they get lucky with the rain cleaning it. It's probably also less of a crime than actually destroying the thing.

[-] Spezi@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Much more visible though. A bystander can easily call the police on you if they see you damaging property, while a small compact laser can be hidden and its also not visible from the outside after the sensor has been destroyed. For research purposes of course.

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