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Parents told to delete social media apps to prevent kids from seeing Hamas atrocities — Facebook, X, TikTok and other social media services have been filled with graphic imagery::American and Israeli parents say they have received messages from schools, temples, synagogues and peers following the Hamas terror attack urging them to delete social media applications off their kids’ phones.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 106 points 2 years ago

The only way to stop kids seeing bad videos on the internet is not let them on the internet.

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago

Israel's social media propaganda campaign has been super well-funded and is geared to really make people think that Hamas are the only bad guys here.

Just last night I was watching youtube with my kids and there was a commercial that showed horrible stuff in support of Israel.

[-] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 18 points 2 years ago

Yeah I got those ads multiple times last night along with a random maga conspiracy ad about how a bad event is happening soon and everyone should buy gas masks.

[-] Mago@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

And youtube is wondering why we use adblockers 🤡

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Holy shit. I’ve had premium since the start of YouTube red. I had no idea YouTube ads were like this now.

I’m used to when it was things like “Here in my garage.”

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Sometimes the ads are an hour long and full of the most right wing conspiracy nonsense. Those always come on if I fall asleep watching a video.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

tbf, getting it off the major mainstream platforms would make it less likely for the really young'uns to stumble on it.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago

That only works if you're the ultimate hipster and avoid anything popular simply because it's popular.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, they should use niche sites like 4chan instead.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

So you're saying there's no way to stop it?

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 64 points 2 years ago

This is fine. Let a generation grow up knowing what war really is.

[-] keefshape@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 years ago

There are ways to teach and prevent the atrocities of war, without subjecting someone to those atrocities first or second hand.

The world needs fewer folks with PTSD, thanks. Not more.

[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago

This sort of content is also not good for folks with PTSD either. Personally, I have to spend quite a bit of effort avoiding it if I want to continue to consume online content when things flare up in the world.

[-] keefshape@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

I agree, and hope my prior post didn't indicate otherwise.

I am very much advocating from a point of PTSD understanding, and prevention.

20 some odd years ago, stupid naive me didn't turn off one of those post 911 beheading videos. Even just typing that out puts me on the edge still.

[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Oh I didn't mean to insinuate that you didn't, I was just trying to support what you said with more context too.

This has been a huge propaganda campaign and it's disgusting.

[-] lea@feddit.de 30 points 2 years ago

Being informed about war? Sure, but

It has come to our attention that deeply disturbing videos, including footage of hostages, may be spread across social media in the near future.

This is not something you want to be exposed to, especially in your developmental years. As someone who grew up with unfiltered internet access looking at these things, take this seriously and protect your children.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

This divorces it from context. There is no point showing children context-free images of atrocities except to terrify them. Even within context, it's really not the best thing to show children under a certain age. My family is Jewish and my father lived through WWII in Britain waiting to be invaded and thrown into a concentration camp, so he made sure I saw Holocaust images when I was pretty young and I can't look at images of atrocities anymore because they disturb me too much and give me vivid nightmares. I even have trouble with horror movies. I basically avoid them. That's not how you let a child know what war is or what genocide is.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

It'd be a damn shame if your kids saw what the world you brought them into is like.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I’m at “the cycle of abuse stops with me”.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Well, has that historically worked?

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

if any kids are still on twitter it's 100% the parents fault at this point. the place is a shithole

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 years ago

I don't think the problem with social media is the Israel crisis...

[-] Gorgeous_Sloth@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago

Kids shouldn’t be on social medias though.

[-] Boogiepop@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Not sure any of us should, tbh

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[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yea. Good luck on that. Just like everything else some parents let kids do it and then the whole peer pressure things happen. Plus how the hell are they going to learn to be responsible when they are old enough unless they have some sort of exposure?

Abstinence is a novel concept but it is not at all practical. Kids are part of society and will be part of the adults within a decade. I think it's far better to teach them how to navigate what is going on rather than throwing blinders on them.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I thought parents from my generation would be better equipped to ensure their kids have safe use of technology but somehow they are even more clueless than my parents were. Yet my grandpa has dementia but can use his Linux computer to bet on horse races online. Most people are just not fit for internet exposure or computers and phones in general and will get more fucked up by it and there isn't any realistic solution.

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Israel, cool. Palestine…DELETE IT!

[-] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wait, I don't get this argument.

You're saying parents are cool with it if their kids see atrocities committed by Israel, but as soon as a Palestinians terrorist group commits atrocities, parents don't want their kids to see it - implying parents want to protect the reputation of Hamas?

[-] dmonzel@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

implying parents want to protect the reputation of Hamas?

Wow, you totally missed the point. OP is implying parents shouldn't be ok with Israeli violence, as well as not ok with Palestinian violence.

Edit: lol at my follow up comments being deleted. To the mod that did so, I'm sorry for pointing out the fact that the person I was replying to is either unable to comprehend basic English, or is trolling.

Because they were removed, I'll type up the sanitized version: the parent comment is pointing out the author of the article is singling out Palestinian violence, but is ignoring the violence, the genocide, being carried out by the Israeli government and the IDF.

[-] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

OP is implying parents should be ok with Israeli violence, but not ok with Palestinian violence.

Parents should want their kids to see violence committed by Israel, but they should want their kids to not be able to see violence committed by Palestinians?

Why?

Because they were removed, I'll type up the sanitized version: the parent comment is pointing out the author of the article is singling out Palestinian violence, but is ignoring the violence, the genocide, being carried out by the Israeli government and the IDF.

You're still not making sense.

If this is a pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian propaganda plot, then why should parents want their kids to see the violence, the genocide, that is being carried out by the Israeli government and the IDF, but not the atrocities and the terrorism committed by the Palestinians and by Hamas?

[-] dmonzel@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure how many times I can say it. The point is the singling out of one, and staying silent about the other. It's about the hypocrisy. I'm not sure why this is so difficult, friend.

[-] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It's not that you're not saying it often enough, it's that you're stopping halfway through what's being proposed here.

You're seeing it as a one-sided, negative thing for the Palestinian side that the atrocities of Hamas are being "singled out" - but you're completely ignoring the fact that they're being "singled out" in order to be hidden from children.

This means that children would never learn - at least not on their own, via social media - of these atrocities committed by Hamas. That would appear like a net positive for the Palestinian side.

You're getting caught up in the "singling out" part while ignoring the "in order to hide it from children" part.

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[-] L3s@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Just want to point you to rule 3, that is the reason for removing the other comments.

Thanks for cleaning it up in your edit.

[-] schwim@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago

I'm not saying this sarcastically but with honest confusion, is the warning from an entity or group that hasn't spent a lot of time on the internet? I'm not young by any stretch of the imagination and people have had very easy,almost accidental access to horrific imagery and media since the advent of the internet. Fake titled gore on Napster, image boards, etc.

I will say the quality/detail of the content has gotten disturbingly more clear. That part makes it more disturbing to me. The Ukraine community has a shocking amount of drone video where it's like a front row seat to the last seconds of someone's life.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

lol, Zionist media pretending Israel isn't currently pushing Palestine into the sea like they always said they would.

[-] Krompus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The messages from schools and Jewish religious institutions underscore the sense of fear that has taken root worldwide after Hamas terrorists stormed into Israel on Saturday, killing hundreds of people. Israel’s counteroffensive has killed ~~hundreds~~ thousands of people in Gaza and the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh no kids can get to know how fucked up is this world. Maybe parents should’ve think about it when they were buying smartphone to 5 years olds

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Kids deserved to be punished for what their parents did? Interesting philosophy you have there.

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