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I can't. I just can't.

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[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

As it references the NTSA I think that this is a USA only issue.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 5 days ago

You think car manufacturers are not going to do the same for non-US markets? Cars have miles and KM on most models even for non-US markets, and the US is the only significant country that uses the imperial system still.

The only difference is the order. Metric countries (everywhere) have KM more prominent than miles.

[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

Of course. But this article is USA specific.

[-] doc@sopuli.xyz 168 points 1 week ago

And when all the used cars are gone and I'm forced to buy one of these I'll promptly be destroying the radio transmitters and everything related to this surveillance.

[-] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 134 points 1 week ago

Why are govts like this suddenly? All in a arms race against privacy?

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 week ago

Because late stage capitalism, lobbyists pushed legislators to allow data collection so that it can be sold to insurance companies who also lobbied so that they can charge more for premiums.

Every company makes more profit.

We don't live in a democracy anymore.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

Guillotine insurance companies. They're just scummy middle-men that seek profit at the cost of everyone else

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[-] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

This was mandated by the 2021 infrastructure bill. I was hoping it got scrapped but apparently not.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not suddenly. It's been going on at least as far back as 2001. Probably more. It's generally not the gov't either as the gov't is mostly driven by moneyed private interests like large corporations. They always push in different ways to get more power to make profit. Get rid of a regulation, make new regulation, get a subsidy, limit rights to resist some abuse, etc. Sometimes it's just more obvious that others in general, or it's in an are we personally pay attention to, and we're like WTAF.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 123 points 1 week ago

as someone who has dealt with over 20 years of pulling victims, alive and dead, from crashes caused by drunks (am firefighter not terrible driver..) I can say this won’t help shit. Just give more data (profit) to corporations and be used in rights violating ways.

[-] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

It's never actually about safety

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[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 110 points 1 week ago

They will really do anything before investing in public transit

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 41 points 1 week ago

Automobile-centric infrastructure was such a colossal societal fuck-up.

Bad for personal health, physical safety, household finances, and the environment. Automobiles are not a symbol of freedom, they are a symbol of dependence.

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago

Yup, drunkards in a tram are annoying but they almost never kill people and cause tens of thousands in damage.

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[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 week ago
[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 week ago

Reminder that this requires all vehicles be SOLD with the tech. It says nothing about what happens to it after purchase.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago

It'll be like every other car with driver assistance and every other advanced feature now, everything gets strapped to the same CANbus and unified powerttrain control module so disabling one part of the system causes the car to get stuck in limp mode, have constant nusiance alerts, and fail state inspections to get registered.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

I am never buying a car built after 2016

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 51 points 1 week ago

Cars have been privacy nightmares for quite a while. People simply do not care.

[-] Tywele@piefed.social 39 points 1 week ago

Many don’t even know to start caring.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago

I care. But they make it really hard to remove or disable that shit.

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 45 points 1 week ago

2027, year of Linux car, or bicycle.

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[-] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

We need to scrap the entire US government and start over.

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

Every technology is eventually used against you by the state

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[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago

The day the vehicle I paid for doesn't work because a goddamn sensor thinks I'm not fit to drive is the day I break my foot off in someone's ass.

Fuck this dystopian shit show we're creating for ourselves.

Vote better.

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 week ago
[-] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago

"I dont want a chinese car because it would just spy on me"

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[-] Cad@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Drunk driving is one thing but it will also judge how tired you are? Driving tired is dangerous. Unfortunately a huge portion of our economy runs on people working too many hours at too many jobs. A huge invasion of privacy with all sorts of knockon effects.

For the people who think they will disable this. You won't be able to without also disabling your car and voiding your warrenty.

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It’s 1984 and no one cares

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Lately, whenever anyone draws the obvious parallels to 1984, posters seem to jump to say that Orwell had unsavoury beliefs and therefore it negates any correct thing he ever said.

It’s such a weird world where we decide someone must be 100% correct by today’s standards or else everything they ever said must be complete bunk.

All of our historical heroes were assholes by today’s standards, and we will be assholes in the eyes of our descendants.

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[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

The used car market looks mighty good right about now.

[-] viov@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Open source hardware needs to be built up more. To do that we need more new people active in that to get different things done. Including vehicles

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

What the fuck? When did Congress pass this, and why wasn't there a huge public outcry against it?

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[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Looks like I'll need to start stockpiling old camrys and corollas in addition to hard drives, routers, motherboards, ram, dumb TVs, flip phones/whatever else they're taking away this year.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

My car is constantly telling me to drive with both hands or yo get coffee when I am driving fine.

Many years ago I had a somewhat scary car accident and since I drive very cautiously and never speed. Yet this fucking thing is still yelling at me all the time.

If I could figure out how it decides to yell at me, I would unplug it.

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[-] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Only drive cars made before Onstar and similar systems were added in the early 90s. They have been tracking you for a long time. But even then you need a license plate, which is constantly collected in most urban areas, stored and sold. It's really impossible to travel anywhere even if you have no phone giving away your location. Flock and all the surveillance systems also tie into the license plate data. Cars began having cell connections and other ways to broadcast data after the onstar type systems were added. Now it's a whole other world with the amount of data cars like Tesla can collect. /OldManRant

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Well now see, now I'm at a cross roads. On the one hand, fuck privacy violations.

On the other hand, fuck drunk drivers.

I guess in the end, my logic is that this will barely be used to detect drunk drivers, and FULLY used to track you in real time.

So lets all fuck over their technology by making nothing but right turns for 8 hours. Just a massive small circle. For 8 hours, every day.

Then it will be assumed their tracking is broken, and they'll waste time figuring out whats broken.

If we all do this, every day, in electric vehicles powered by solar chargers, then we'll save the world!

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

This is just "protect the children" in a different form. Could it be used to stop drunk drivers? Sure, maybe. Is that the motivation? Hell no.

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