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[-] Janx@piefed.social 40 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

college students in the US can score 12 months free of Microsoft 365 Premium and Xbox Game Pass Ultimate with the purchase of an eligible PC, plus a free custom Xbox controller.

Wow. A controller for the gaming ecosystem they're letting die, and temporary access to their online (worse) office programs along with Game Pass access (also temporary)... Where do I sign up!?

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 14 points 14 hours ago

Lmao thanks for saving me a read. That's so trash

[-] MattR@feddit.org 37 points 17 hours ago

Microsoft is unaware that students need a reliable device, this also means a stable OS which they can't offer.

[-] Steve@communick.news 3 points 16 hours ago

Windows is remarkably stable. Has been for many years.

[-] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I sincerely hope you're trolling.

I teach computer science and windows has been the biggest source of problems I've had in the last five years: I've seen defender delete their programs when compiling them, I've seen it delete gcc because it thought it was malware, I've seen it do forced updates in the middle of a test, I've seen updates break tools like compilers and servers that needed to be reinstalled on a daily basis, I've seen onedrive make some of their files inaccessible, I've seen updates break their wifi, I've seen it take upwards of 10 minutes to log into our AD domain, the list of problems goes on.

These days windows is a piece of shit, especially if you're a developer. I'm basically forced to have them either install linux or do all their development in wsl, and it fucking sucks.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 49 minutes ago

I sincerely hope you're trolling.

He is, it's painfully obvious. If not from his original comment, then at the very least from his follow-ups to the replies he got

[-] irvinefantasyno@beehaw.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Lmao what in the world

[-] hazelnoot@beehaw.org 2 points 7 hours ago

it was stable, up until a few years ago. But starting when MS scaled back their QA department (Windows 10 era IIRC) - and worsening when they went all-in on AI (Windows 11 era), stability and reliability has fallen off a cliff. I started tracking crashes and problems that required manual intervention, and over the last two years I've spent more hours debugging and fixing Windows 11 than Xubuntu. This is the first time in my life where Linux has required less maintenance than a stock Windows installation. It's bad enough that I advised all my non-technical family members to stay on Windows 10 instead of upgrading to Windows 11, despite the lack of support.

[-] Steve@communick.news 1 points 7 hours ago

That may be.
I've always disabled all that stuff immediately. Even applied ReviOS to permanently remove it all 6ish months ago.

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 12 points 14 hours ago

Then why do they keep having to roll back what seems like every update they release due to some major bug?

[-] Steve@communick.news 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

"Seems like" is doing a lot of work here.
But to answer the question: To be sure it stays stable. Rolling back buggy updates is a good thing. You don't want to leave them.

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 9 points 13 hours ago

The severity of the bugs that they're having to roll back for does not scream "stable OS" to me.

[-] Steve@communick.news 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Of course not. It whispers. You have to lean in closely, and know what you're listening for. From a distance all you hear is BUG!

[-] SteevyT@beehaw.org 27 points 16 hours ago

When fucking File Explorer freezes a CAD machine for several minutes at a time resulting in explorer.exe crashing and restarting multiple times a day I'd say it's not as stable as I got used to. Several of us at the place I work at have been dealing with this, although it has been getting better, it never should have happened in the first place.

[-] Steve@communick.news 1 points 15 hours ago

That's not the OS really.
Explorer restarting is no different than any app.

Becides, It depends on the specifics, but good chance it's the CAD software doing something it shouldn't. Specific small market industry software is notoriously quirky and troublesome.

[-] SteevyT@beehaw.org 11 points 15 hours ago

Nope, it happens with literally just a couple explorer windows, outlook, and teams open. The CAD box comment was just to make clear that it is not on underpowered hardware by any means. And I've managed to trigger it with nothing but explorer windows open.

[-] Steve@communick.news 1 points 15 hours ago

Okay. I don't know what it could be. I'm not gonna troubleshoot your specific company issue blind from a distance . But still not the OS.

[-] SteevyT@beehaw.org 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I don't expect troubleshooting, but it's not isolated to just my company, my home computer did it too, not nearly as often, and it's been a while since it's happened there (probably since I only leave file explorer open for 30 seconds at a time).

And even if it's not technically part of the OS, will Windows even be in a useable state without it? Most things I see call it a "Core part of the OS," although those are also specific to Windows 10 so if 11 changed it, that's news to me. I dont see a difference. To most people (myself included), explorer.exe crashing and restarting looks just like Windows shitting itself, and since it's packaged with every Windows install, that perception really is hard to argue against despite what some technicality of it being an executable says.

[-] SteevyT@beehaw.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think my wife's laptop had the explorer issue. Every computer that did had multiple monitors attached, her laptop always operates single screen. Or it's somehow specific to enterprise Windows 11, I forget why my home machine is running enterprise, but that's what I installed on it for some reason.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago

"has been" is right, lol

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 34 points 17 hours ago

This is an idiotic counter to the Neo. Microsoft is in a position it's not faced before: Macs are cheaper than PCs. Offering a year of "free services" doesn't change the fact that Surfaces start at more than twice what Apple has on offer.

[-] doleo@lemmy.one 30 points 17 hours ago

college students in the US can score 12 months free of Microsoft 365 Premium and Xbox Game Pass Ultimate with the purchase of an eligible PC, plus a free custom Xbox controller.

Saved you a click

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 15 points 16 hours ago

Which is really funny because most (all?) students get 365 free from their school already

[-] nocturne@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago

The subscriptions are only available to new subscribers.

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 12 points 16 hours ago

Or just a Framework and install Linux, skip Microslop

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 6 points 15 hours ago

The only thing is that the 8GB Framework 12 is a bit more expensive than the (8GB) MacBook Neo, and if you get it to 16GB it starts getting close to MacBook Air territory. But if you can sacrifice the nice build quality and nice screen plus spend some extra £, you can get Linux and a repairable laptop.

In any case: Windows is just not a value proposition anymore. Why pay extra to deal with Intel, MS and Copilot?

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 6 points 14 hours ago

To be fair to Framework, the 12 is a 2-in-1 with a touchscreen, which is not something that's currently offered on any of Apple's laptops and at least partially accounts for the extra cost. Of course, economies of scale play a part, as well.

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