Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?
They over-consumed the goods from those countries and they lost their minds.
One of them is probably steam lol.
To be fair, I don't trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: "Where there's a trough, there will be pigs." Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.
Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.
To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more "competitive" some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it's just the realpolitik influencing decisions.
The EU keeps coming within inches of voting for making secure encryption impossible. Chat Control would have been worse for privacy than anything the US has.
And every year new open mass surveillance worse than the UK and US attempts to be passed and barely fails.
GDPR also doesn't mean shit if it is barely enforced against large companies or the fines aren't revenue-proportional.. Then it is just a cost of doing business.
Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.
For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.
Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.
Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.
I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.
China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!
Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.
At least it's better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.
I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.
So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.
If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.
Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.
Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.
As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.
I don't trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.
I don't trust politico with my news articles
I dont trust the US with my data ... or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.
4/5 of the people i know in the US don't trust the US.
I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.
To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.
Good, also don't trust european firms either, don't trust any corporations with your data.
It's amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There's few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.
But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.
9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.
9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo
The Chinese can do less harm with my data than the US and it's allies.
For now.
The problem is that once it's out there, you can't take it back.
Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don't trust them, either.
I'm down to Romania and Iceland, now.
Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.
I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they're... Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.
At this point how does anyone trust anyone with their data?
I'm currently in the process of degoogling. There's a lot to consider.
Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.
I don't trust any firm
I despise the US from the bottom of my heart, and I am a big China fan, and yet at the same time I don't want anyone to handle our data. We need data sovereignty. Our data stays here and that's it. Not in the US. Not in China. Not anywhere else.
Why on earth would we!? China especially don't have the best track record, and the US is the laughing stock of the world at this point, not to trusted with anything.
I only trust math with my data (i.e. encryption...)
How many of those 8 are doing anything, ANYTHING, about it though?
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