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[-] Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.

9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.

9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo

[-] greenb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Lumo shoutout!

[-] Blander_Rurton@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Why on earth would we!? China especially don't have the best track record, and the US is the laughing stock of the world at this point, not to trusted with anything.

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Definitely, and "data" is just a single bullet point on the list lol

It'd be like going to a quack doctor and saying "No way am I letting you operate on my brain! ...open heart surgery? Yeah, that's fine" lol

[-] febra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I despise the US from the bottom of my heart, and I am a big China fan, and yet at the same time I don't want anyone to handle our data. We need data sovereignty. Our data stays here and that's it. Not in the US. Not in China. Not anywhere else.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 1 day ago

I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.

To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I don't trust my own government, and have no reason to trust anyone else at this point, let alone for profit companies. It's bleak.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

I use DeepSeek, because I feel it is less nefarious.

[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago

Good, also don't trust european firms either, don't trust any corporations with your data.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago

It's amazing how many people cheer for corporations. There's few consistents in the world but a big one is corporations are not your friend.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

How many of those 8 are doing anything, ANYTHING, about it though?

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago

As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago

I don't trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.

[-] uenticx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

How about, if your data can be compromised, it's not safe anywhere?

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago

For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

[-] freely1333@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.

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[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.

At least it's better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.

[-] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 1 day ago

Honestly, I prefer someone else's untrustworthy.

I don't trust China at all, but I trust them over the US, if only because they have no stake in me as a foreigner.

[-] markko@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yet... they play the long game.

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[-] TheAlbatross 16 points 2 days ago

I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.

China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them

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[-] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 16 points 1 day ago

Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don't trust them, either.

I'm down to Romania and Iceland, now.

Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.

I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they're... Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I also don't trust us with our data.

[-] mecen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Even more they don't trust china...

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Lol who trusts any firm with their data?

[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

20% of Europeans

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I wouldn't lol

[-] quack@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 days ago

If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.

Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.

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[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

I dont trust the US with my data ... or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.

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[-] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 156 points 2 days ago

Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?

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[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 75 points 2 days ago

To be fair, I don't trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: "Where there's a trough, there will be pigs." Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 days ago

Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.

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[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.

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[-] GargleBlaster@feddit.org 35 points 2 days ago

I don't trust politico with my news articles

[-] dasrael@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.

[-] shirasho@feddit.online 51 points 2 days ago

I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.

So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.

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[-] Brummbaer@pawb.social 21 points 2 days ago

The Chinese can do less harm with my data than the US and it's allies.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For now.

The problem is that once it's out there, you can't take it back.

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