Liberals one seat shy of a majority as Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu crosses the floor (www.cp24.com)

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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

While it's good that the conservative party is shrinking, it also means that the liberals are becoming solidly right wing

[-] dom@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 weeks ago

And hopefully people realize and start fucking voting ndp

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

☝️☝️☝️

And we just did our job to make sure NDP is unambiguously left.

[-] tangonov@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

They always were

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Gladu is an insane bigot. PC party is dead

[-] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly don't know what Carney is doing. She is a vaccine skeptic and socially conservative on many issues.

[-] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

Economically, she's pretty close to Carney, and she's also argued in favour of the environment against the Conservatives before. She'd probably fit in with the Greens, especially during May's "wifi causes cancer" days.

Yeah, the vaccine stuff is pretty bad, but presumably she won't be in a position to influence that sort of policy (and hopefully Canada won't be in a position where we need to think about that sort of policy).

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You know, there's a noticeable contingent of vaguely right-wing hippies in rural Alberta, but I've never heard of it happening in Ottawa.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

She’d probably fit in with the Greens, especially during May’s “wifi causes cancer” days.

That's...A crazy reach. Gladu is a reactionary who definitely fit very well in the CPC. This is like if Leslyn Lewis or Rachel Thomas or someone like that crossed the floor.

[-] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like he wants to eke out a majority rather than calling a general election. Personally i think he'd win a comfortable majority and gain better candidates, but polling has probably shown people aren't wanting to go to the polls so soon. Otherwise i don't see why he wouldn't, he's decimating the cons in popularity.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Really? Hmm, I wonder is it actually was just in hope of goodies, then.

PP is far, far better if that's what you want. Carney basically agrees with Trudeau and Avi Lewis on "do vaccines work" (unless Avi in an antivaxxer), and is at least very close on social issues.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly it's probably not out of the question that Carney is a secret anti-vaxxer, given his openly religious rhetoric recently.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He's an educated member of the elite, so he doesn't really fit the profile. I don't think mainstream Catholicism is big on antivaxx stuff, anyway. The pope certainly wasn't.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah Catholics are supposed to like vaccines

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

But apparently it's an open question about Lewis? Gimme a break

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't actually know much about Lewis, he's new. That was just covering my bases so I don't get UM ACKTCHUALLY-d.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do we have any evidence that Carney is pro-vaccine? He's been cutting all sorts of research across the board. He also flaunts his Catholicism, but the Pope is anti-AI and anti-war, Carney is neither.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not that I know of, but that's like asking to prove a negative. He's also probably not a lot of other crazy things.

Look, I don't want to be a dick, which is why I've taken my time replying, but together with the last exchange we had it seems like you're actively looking for reasons to hate him.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

And yet, you cast doubt on Lewis' position. See the issue?

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because of proximity to Elizabeth May, who at the very least has commented on wifi causing cancer. There is a left-wing brand of anti-science.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

And there is a capitalist version of anti-science, and a religious version of anti-science, and apparently a posting-on-lemmy version of casting doubt on someone without any supporting evidence.

Carney, on the other hand, gave a convoy supporter, Joël Lightbound, a minister's portfolio, and has just welcomed anti-science Marilyn Gladu into the party with open arms.

And you're claiming that Lewis, who is in an entirely different party than Elizabeth May, has "proximity" to her? Can we acknowledge that Carney is much closer to folks with anti-science views?

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've started being more vocal with family and friends about politics. Unless people stop supporting the Liberals over this stuff, Carney is going to continue dragging this country to the right.