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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 71 points 1 year ago

Israel doesn’t need our support. Ukraine does. Easy choice.

[-] Nerorero 28 points 1 year ago

Sounds like Russia was successful. They met with the Hamas a while back and it seems this is the outcome

[-] Frederic@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Yes, when I read the title of this post, I thought that Putin was behind that, and he certainly is

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Did they really or you're just speculating?

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Let’s start with the Hamas attacks. Russia has long courted the Islamist militants, and Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh and other officials have made recent trips to Moscow. After Saturday’s assaults, the Russians were quick to dust off old plans to pull Israel’s borders back to where they were in 1967. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the creation of a Palestinian state was being thwarted by the “destructive policy” of the U.S., and you could almost hear the purr of satisfaction when a gloating former President Dmitry Medvedev dismissed the Hamas attacks as “an expected development” and turned his ire against the West.

https://www.politico.eu/article/hamas-gift-russia-vladimir-putin-international-crises-russia-israel-palestine/

[-] Madison_rogue@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The two that will gain the most from the Hamas attack are Netanyahu, and Putin. Netanyahu because of his most recent power grab, and Putin as the world turns eyes away from Ukraine. Netanyahu can continue to consolidate power now that Israel is "at war," and Putin can ramp up his war crime shennanigans in Ukraine.

[-] Nerorero 1 points 1 year ago

They really did.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 21 points 1 year ago

"Stretching its ability to support Ukraine"...for now.

The problem isn't that we can't do both because we certainly can, the problem is that we're running out of money to do it UNDER CURRENT APPROPRIATIONS BILLS.

Congress will eventually return to session and more appropriations bills will pass; the only questions are how much and how quickly it will be done.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Why do you need to support Israel at all beyond the amount that was previously being done? They're not in an actual war and they're not having to defend against an invasion like Ukraine is.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Geopolitically speaking, you should completely pull out of Israel. Seriously, do it. Pull all funding from Israel.

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Why is Israel, who is hardly the victim in their conflict and strangely very well funded by US taxpayers ,being conflated with Ukraine, who is being invaded by a dictatorship?

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only constant between those two is the fascism.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While there is no evidence to support it, some experts are pointing at Putin's lukewarm response after the attack, and the fact that this division of efforts is immensely helpful to his invasion in Ukraine, and are wondering if he worked with Iran to help arm and plan this attack by Hamas.

So, in other words, "stretching its ability to support Ukraine" was the whole point.

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4250708-putins-fingerprints-are-on-hamas/

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I too enjoy consuming conspiracy theories dressed up as news

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The White House said it was “running out of runway” on supporting both Ukraine and Israel as US Republican lawmakers warned they would protest any funding request for military aid from the Biden administration for the two crisis-hit nations.

Mr Kirby was answering a question at a daily briefing on the administration meeting the immediate needs of Ukraine and Israel along with the continuing fight to elect a House Speaker.

The National Security Council coordinator also said the House Speaker position was critical in terms of bringing legislation to the floor and moving things forward.

The White House has been considering a budget request tying money for these two conflicts together to increase the chances that the heavily-debated assistance for Ukraine will be approved.

He told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the US will send more military assistance to help Israel fight Hamas.

The US is already rushing munitions and military equipment to Israel and has deployed a carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean as deterrence.


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[-] Porka_911@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Israel is like David and Goliath, but this time Goliath wins.

[-] asg101@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

The paper tiger is beginning to shred. Hopefully.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The US has a lot of criticism that can be leveled at it, but "paper tiger" certainly isn't one.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Literally the Vietnamese called the US a paper tiger and then kicked the US' ass.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

If what the US did to Vietnam and Cambodia over 20+ years is a "paper tiger" then uh, I don't think a real tiger exists.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Do genocide and fail at winning wars against relatively small impoverished nations?

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I guess if killing 1million+ Vietnamese is something a "paper tiger" does sure the US is a "paper tiger."

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yes. This isn't call of duty where the goal is to kill as many people as possible. The US got its ass kicked.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes I get it. The US lost the Vietnam war. The issue is that a "paper tiger" doesn't kill 1million+ people. Losing a war doesn't mean you are a paper tiger.

Is Hamas also a paper tiger? Russia? Israel?

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Quit coping, you're clearly in the wrong here.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'd say that the vietnamese soldier who made the claim and almost certainly was killed by the "paper tiger" was wrong.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ, listen to yourself.

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

The US, famous for just rolling over. You guys are on more copium than imperial japan and it’s hilarious.

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