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[-] markz@suppo.fi 354 points 1 month ago

Now gimme one without smart tv bullshit

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago

They exist, but they're called commercial monitors

[-] tyler@programming.dev 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are there gaming screens like that though? Cause I thought commercial monitors were all slow response.

[-] thejml@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago

I've got a 43" Aorus 4k gaming screen for my desktop. 144Hz, freesync, 2 HDMI's a DisplayPort and a USBC. There is a 48" OLED as well, but I didn't have the space for it at the time.

After using a 4k 43" for a monitor for a few years, I definitely both recommend it AND wish companies would make 8k ones.

[-] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Does anything useful even come in 8K at this point? I saw it as a spec last time I went television shopping, but it seemed like something that wouldn't be useful for another decade.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

8k is effectively dead

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[-] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

He should have said commerical displays, which are basically TV's rated for long continuous use e.g. digital signage.

I haven't dealt with them in some time, but I would imagine many, if not most, do not include consumer smart tv features, although they probably have other embedded smart tech to help with stuff like signage.

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But do commercial monitors make good tvs?

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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The smart TV part is conceptually okay, but the bullshit is unspeakable. I actually like that TVs have apps for the streaming services and stuff, if they didn't have to be evil about how they implement it. But they're evil, so here we all are, wanting completely dumb TVs.

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

I don't really agree that is conceptually okay. TVs and computers have drastically different life cycles. That TV will still be kicking probably a decade after the internal Smart TV computer is uselessly underpowered. This same problem is arguably even worse with cars.

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[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 20 points 1 month ago

Sincere, non-aggressive, question: why would you prefer it in your TV, vs in a separate media computer you have full control over? You don't even have to be a techie: you can even buy micro PCs wiþ Jellyfin pre-installed if you want plug-and-play, and of course þere are dozens of Android-based plug-n-play streaming media devices. Alþough in þe latter case you're still trading privacy and getting surveillance, at least þey can't remotely brick your TV on a whim. Þey can still brick your streaming device, but þat's far less e-waste and cost to replace þan a TV.

Why do you like having it in þe TV? Purely convenience? Better all-around integrated experience? Simplicity?

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

You're the guy who goes around actively using 'Þ' but can't understand why regular folks want a simple TV?

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

A TV with an OS and apps is not "simple". Simple is a screen that displays what I plug into it.

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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Fewer devices, my TV is mounted to the wall, so fewer cords. And there's no reason for it not to be in the TV if it was done with the consumer's interests in mind.

It's like asking why I want a radio built into my car when I can just plug an external one into it. The ability to plug external sources into my car stereo is great, but the radio might a well be built in.

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Every invention this century....

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 220 points 1 month ago

It's not going to be cheap, though — in the US, the 65-inch model is officially priced at $3,499.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’d happily pay that for a pc-gaming quality dumb panel the size of a traditional tv.

But ima need 3 or 4 display port inputs.

I also probably want full sized display port inputs over usb-c form

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[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 92 points 1 month ago

HOPEFULLY this is the beginning of the end for HDMI.

[-] borth@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 month ago
[-] markz@suppo.fi 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You gotta start somewhere. If this sells, there might be another.

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[-] AyuTsukasa@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago
[-] blueduck@piefed.social 85 points 1 month ago

Proprietary standard that’s worse than modern DisplayPort specs. Adds cost without adding features.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 50 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Comparison_with_HDMI

Mostly licensing. Every single hdmi port manufsctured requires a fee, and the closedness just holds tech back.

[-] just2look@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It is a proprietary closed protocol with built in DRM. The HDMI Forum is not consumer friendly, charges royalties to manufacturers for the productiom of HDMI capable devices, and HDMI has no performance advantage over Display Port.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The connector is flimsy, will wear out in applications where you connect and disconnect it often and the whole standard is controlled by big tech and they abuse that power to hinder open source efforts.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Enemy of your freedom. Doesn't even let AMD support 2.1 on Linux so Steam Deck or Steam Machine cannot support 2.1 with open source drivers! That's why it's officially only HDMI 2.0

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[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 month ago

Ah so close!

If it lacked any smart tv features and had displayport it would be my next tv.

[-] BouteilleBrune@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

same, make TVs dumb again!

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[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 month ago

Tldr; This article reads like my own particular preferred brand of copium.

Nvidia Tried this with BFG (Big Format gaming Displays) but most of them never made it to market. I think Microcenter carried one model and it was expensive for what you were getting. Back in those days having the nvidia gsync sticker easily double the price of any monitor and making it a ~60" tv wasn't an exception.

I can't be the only person who wants display port but I fear this must have to do with the HDMI Forum being the current cable standard mafia and supporting anything other than HDMI is like giving up an inch of the total control they have over the TV industry. They (Sony, Phillips, Toshiba, Hitachi, etc) are effectively colluding against TV buyers and controlling the market and eliminating competition.

With that being said, the USB-C port on these TVs has been around and Ive seen other reviewers show that the high sense implementation is not the panacea (yet) that gamers desire. Its more for like, plugging in your Macbook to your TV.

Still, if this TV came out tomorrow and Wendell from Level1techs said "your Linux pc can get 4k, 120hz, HDR FreeSync out of this" and showed it working, $3500 dollars wouldn't stop me from buying it.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Still, if this TV came out tomorrow and Wendell from Level1techs said “your Linux pc can get 4k, 120hz, HDR FreeSync out of this” and showed it working, $3500 dollars wouldn’t stop me from buying it.

I wish I was this rich to impulse buy something that expensive because a man on the internet said something positive abouti t.

[-] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 month ago

Well, you see, when you know and understand Linux well, your chances to become rich are increasingly higher.

[-] entwine@programming.dev 27 points 1 month ago
  • Most people are poor
  • Most people use Windows

Coincidence?

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[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 month ago

Does it act as a dumb monitor? Can all smart TV features be permanently disabled?

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

You can prolly just not connect it to Wi-Fi but I seriously doubt any TVs these days don't have this bullshit.

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[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Hisense UR9 RGB, but note that the port is on the left bezel of the panel. Hopefully saved you a click.

[-] RepleteLocum 34 points 1 month ago

Can you install KDE TV on it?

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[-] kieron115@startrek.website 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love that the author refers to Hisense as "it" rather than they. Corporations aren't people!

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[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Sounds great! I'll gladly pay $200usd for it.

I skimmed the article and didn't see any mention of price, but I expect it to be 10x what I'm willing to spend on a display.

Also if it's a smart tv I'm no longer interested at all.

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[-] foodvacuum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Damn. Too expensive for me. My TV has a dark spot after 8 years. I'm going to be on the market for a new one in the next year or two and displayport would be sweet. Hopefully this starts a trend. This is Hisence and am excited to see reviews for the latest TCL models to drop

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Oh good, now you can watch ads on your giant tv when your console or PC game ends because the TV will know.

Next: subscription access to play games on said Big TV.

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