"Lots of things are the abuse of anxiety" doesn't make my statement any less true. As far as extent of abuse goes, I would say religion is near if not the top of the list though.

They’re oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of no longer adding anything useful to the discussion.

true; religion can act as therapy for anxiety

but similar to other self-help like activities it can easily abused to be the exact opposite and even like a cult. like the commies here and trump's cult

There are religious groups that are simply good sources of community

Houses built on sand.

A community built on lying to the gullible and anxious can never last long. It inevitably gets taken over by abusers because it's an easy target.

There are religious groups that are simply good sources of community

Which is an important factor for social animals like us humans. This also underlines that there is a lack of alternatives for people who seek community, social support, etc.. Thereby inviting more people to become indoctrinated.

Or society has failed because of religions indoctrination and lack of critical thinking.

Its absolutely supposed to be. But then we came along and got the classic human stink all over it. Everything will be fine after you die as long as you recruit all your friends and do as I say and gimme some money. Might do a Holy War too, stay tuned for that.

Maybe that's why I have too much of it then. Also think it does worse for people to believe in things that have no factual basis for being real. We need to learn we are humans, an sentient being but just an animal, we aren't special and we have issues and need to deal with them in a healthy way.

For the record I'm just saying no tangible proof of a higher existence, if you want to believe that's for you is all. To each their own. I just need some proof myself.

Course some people drink a lot not like that's worse than religion healthwise. Long as you don't go on a crusade anyways then the drinking may be better.

Most religions play with fears to get people aligned with the respective religious agenda. I can't name a religion that does not do this in some form. Got an exmple?

I have never seen much difference between reincarnation and the resurrection. One is circular, one is linear.

Areligious people aren't inherently immoral and it was the foundation of some societies because it was used to control people while at the same time pass blame to an intangible entity

People don’t need to believe in an invisible sky wizard to have a common sense of either of those things. and I’m not particularly impressed with religious morality, nor with many of the societies that religion has built.

But such a belief is very useful as a common means to control and exploit people, both individually and en masse.

If someone needs religion to be moral, it says quite a bit about them.

The God that people believe in, in the Bibble, clearly contradicts himself repeatedly. You can straight up write him off through deduction, at which point, you realize you don't even know what the fuck you are believing in, so might as well not, or might as well believe whatever random thing you want.

Might as well believe in a supreme being, but you don't have holy rules telling you how to behave, so you either have to assume it's evil, or it does not exist, because a good spreme being would never leave you to suffer for your sins, and commit immorality through no failt of theirs.