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[-] Teppa@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The money supply grows at 7% a year, and somehow real estate prices keep going up, goods keep getting made cheaper and cheaper, food keeps degrading in quantity and quality, and we keep losing things we used to consider basic services.

I wonder if they are at all correlated.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Keep people poor and desperate. I honestly just can't believe how bad it has been getting.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Money supply growing at 7% is another way of saying inflation. You have to grow the economy, ie increase GDP.

[-] ssfckdt 10 points 4 months ago

Many subdivisions already do this. The home I used to live in, we had to go to the end of the block to get our mail. It wasn't a community or HOA or anything. This was, oh, 15 years back.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah. I've never had home delivery of mail. Always gone to boxes. I don't see what the big deal is.

[-] discomatic@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Not everyone is able-bodied, friend. Imagine being a wheelchair user when your neighbours can't be bothered to shovel and the city hasn't plowed.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Yes I can because I've never had to door mail where I live. As a matter of fact, 75% of Canadian homes don't have to door mail. This doesn't seem fair.

[-] Gruntled@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

If you're not able bodied, you can let Canada Post know and the carrier will bring it to your door once a week.

[-] Grabthar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Mostly a big deal in dense cities, apparently. Figuring out where to put a great many of them when most of the space is taken up by other things. They're considering using parking spots for some of them, which has raised questions about the safety of the people accessing them. Other solutions and problems as well. Everywhere I have lived for the last 25 years has had these boxes, and they tend to build spots into new neighbourhoods to support them, but subdivisions aren't super dense, so I can see why cities might have challenges.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

One place I lived had no boxes or home delivery. I had to go the the post office.

[-] Grabthar@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I remember the post office having a foyer full of little PO boxes that were loaded from the rear, and most people in town had to go there to get their mail. That was in small town Ontario 40 years ago, but they'd have probably used these super boxes now instead.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

That's small town living.

[-] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I'm kind of looking forward to having community mailboxes honestly. I don't much mail and it's an excuse to get out of the house.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

All the ever deliver to my home is junk. It's 2026.

[-] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

If you put a no flyers note on your mailbox they will respect it 90% of the time

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Canadian Tire has been providing free bird cage liners to Canadians for decades! You want them to stop, in this economy?

[-] glibg@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I used to love walking a couple blocks to the post office when I lived in a small town. Personally, ending home delivery doesn't bother me. I hope all the old folks and people with reduced mobility can find a way to get their mail, though.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

You mean the proposal from Harper that was lambasted by the Liberals and the union?

Considering Canada Post is billions in debt partly because Canadians no longer care or use the service needs to be addressed. Is it an essential service if no one cares?

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

It's incredibly disingenuous to look at a public service and say "This costs money to operate" as if it was a bad thing. Like wtf do you expect? It's obvious and conservatives frame this obvious fact in such a way that garners support for their wanton destuction of our society in the name of profit. Profit for themselves and their friends, which very likely does not include you.

You repeat their spin almost verbatim and with your vote they slowly run our institutions to the ground and hammer in a FOR SALE sign.

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago

If they no longer used it, the expense of running it would be very low. So maybe your information is wrong...?

[-] TheDoctorDonna@piefed.ca 9 points 4 months ago

Who's not using the mail service? Every time I go to the post office the line up is at least 5 deep.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Huge decrease in mail delivery over the last 5 years. Number of pieces of mail delivered to homes has gone from 372 in 2006 to 131 in 2024 (Canada Post data).

[-] Subscript5676@piefed.ca 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yup, keep taking the blue pill.

Edit: Okay, I did not know the meaning's kinda flipped on the current political parlance, so I thought I'd clarify; yeah, keep downing the shovelled reality where "nobody wants to use Canada Post", instead of thinking about the generations of governments that have continually failed to update and keep Canada Post relevant, while allowing private companies to eat that pie and even allow people with a clear conflict of interest to have a strong influence over Canada Post's management. So yeah, it's the original "blue pill" from The Matrix.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

It seems to be used mostly by businesses now: send bills or parcels, send advertising. It still has a role to play, but I do think it needs to be adjusted because of its shifting role.

[-] qaeta@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

What do you mean "planning" to. They've refused to deliver packages for nearly a decade at this point. Oh sure, they'll say they'll deliver, but they never do, just a note telling you to go do their job for them. Literally the only delivery company that has this issue with my place.

[-] Gruntled@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Complain to them. Seriously. Sometimes there's a reason you're not aware of, but if your carrier is being a lazy shit, complain.

[-] qaeta@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have. CP's response was the absolutely absurd "we do not require couriers to deliver packages provided to them for delivery." My flabbers were legitimately ghasted at that response, and is when I completely gave up on them ever becoming a legitimate or remotely reliable delivery service.

Honestly, to this very day, I still struggle to wrap my head around the idea of a business that, as a matter of policy, do not require their employees to do the work they hired them to do.

[-] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Non-unionized private parcel delivery prove delivering door to door can be profitable, but it would mean layoffs from automating more of the processes, and a more flexible workforce that isn't paid so well that they can retire by age 50 like a millionaire with full pension.

No businesses that take themselves seriously are going to willingly choose to use a logistics, infrastructure, or banking service subject to regular labour disruptions.

[-] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago

Why would a service needs to be profitable? Is garbage disposal turning a profit?

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

Canada Post should be like the armed forces, healthcare, or homeless shelters, a total financial loss in exchange for an essential service.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Ban those private delivery companies. Problem solved.

[-] dotCody@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Non-unionized private parcel delivery prove

that they fucking suck. They dont know how to drive, park, secure their vehicle or even fucking safe drop.

Canada Post is the cheapest and most reliable in this nation for a reason. If you have a problem pickup the fucking phone and complain. Stop going onto Facebook to cry like a bitch.

[-] healthetank@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Canada Post pension maxes out at 35yrs, and you get hit with major deductions if you retire before 60 even with 30 years. Otherwise its 65 yrs for retirement. https://www.cpcpension.com/homepage/triage_glossary-e.asp#Pensionable-age

This is not dissimilar to any other DB pension.

The pension value is, again, similar to every other pension I've seen (AMAPCEO, OPS, etc). If someone can retire early and"like a millionaire" (which is a super outdated valuation), either their spouse has a good pension too, they made smart financial choices, or they got lucky with choices.

In comparison to every other modern country, our nationalized mail service does extremely well and is run **very **efficiently. Like top 1 or 2 in the world well. Source

We shouldn't be simping for multinational corps who manage to get away with rock bottom delivery pricing by underpaying staff and claiming "this is efficiency".

[-] Gruntled@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Let's not forget also that if you live in a remote location, and somebody sends a parcel to you via UPS or one of the other private carriers, Canada Post is the one who gets it to the door (or local post office, if it's a really small town).

It's not profitable to get out there, but Canada Post must. The other carriers get to take a profit while forcing CP to take the loss.

[-] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

This comments section doesn't feel like a safe place to have this discussion 😅

[-] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That says more about the people here in this little filter bubble/echo chamber than anything else. Most replies you can see don't even have the maturity to enter good faith debate.

Like the LCBO, SAQ, Air Canada, Petro Canada or other previous/existing crown corps, they compete with private industry and generate revenue. They are required by the government to be renevue neutral.

Canada Post will continue to mint 55 year old retirees living like millionares requiring nothing more than a high school education into the 2040s, servicing their pension past the 2070s with no effort other than checking a box to have a few thousand of their pretax pay used. There aren't jobs with compensation that good in private industry for that level of education. Yes private industry should have better compensation, but that's beside the point.

People either are being intentionally misleading to others, or if we give them the benefit of the doubt, are blissfully unaware of actual facts and aren't interested in being competently informed 🙈🙉🙊

[-] 2loudis2old@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

April 1 Again?

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The only real mail thats addressed to me and also isnt some sort of ad like my credit card company trying to give me a balance transfer promo is like once every few months.

I dont check my box often unless im expecting something and its often full of junk.

I ain't spending even more effort to deal with a community box far away, so they're gonna be shoving shit in there with no room to keep shoving.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Oh, and most of the mail i get is for past people who lived here even though i keep doing return to sender on their shit.

[-] Gruntled@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Put a sign in your mailbox saying "No Neighbourhood Mail Please" or "No Flyers Please" and you'll stop getting most junk. You'll still get some government stuff like bylaw announcements from the municipality or occasional notices from your MP or MLA, but it will cut out most of it.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't get regular flyers from Canada Post I already stopped that, but I'm getting things like pamphlets from Rona being sent to previous tenants, so it's got a person addressed on it.

Edit: and there's like 5 or 6 names of people's stuff like this that keeps showing up.

[-] Gruntled@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Ah, that one's tougher. Most of the time the sender isn't paying for return service. For most advertising like that, anyway.

You can look at the postage on the top right... If it says "Personalized Mail" then it won't be returned unless it says that it will underneath. "Postage Paid" or "Letter Mail," or that extra note under "Personalized Mail" that says it will be returned (I forget the exact wording, but it's obvious when it's there), you can just draw a line through the name and address and leave it for the letter carrier or put it in a red box.

It's still up to the sender to stop wasting their money, though.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ive been trying the cross out / return to sender then putting in the red boxes, but didnt know that about the stamp and if it was even paid for or not. That probably explains why it continues.

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