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How bout 
Why do some people just have the worst fucking ideas...and why is "some" starting to feel like "most"
Because media propaganda makes it seem as if the majority have certain views. People don't like to be on the outside so if the media can trick people into conforming then they will try that.
Ok well I suggest Fedora Project leader get fucked. Plenty of other good distros bub.
I have a feeling that a lot of those who replied have not really read the article, that contains some nuances. I do not like the idea of age verification, but the project leader's proposal is apparently not even official (and more like a hypothetical in a discussion thread on their forums.
Please read more than headlines, lol.
However.. ive read the associated analysis of the California bill that reads directly on legislative intent:
quoting he Cali Senate Judiciary Committee analysis : file:///home/jspaleta/Downloads/202520260AB1043_Senate%20Judiciary.pdf
Why are we listening to a person who tried to link a file directly from their downloads folder?
Also the original post that the article is referencing on the fedora forums is suggesting that we remove all networking support from baseline linux as some way to comply/circumvent the law.
I'm sorry, but I just can't take anything said in that forum post seriously.
Whoever the fuck supports age verification should be hung!!! Fuck that shit!!
Fuck age verification, but the fact that this comment gets even a single upvote seriously worries me.
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For solutions that back on actually "verifying" the age by requiring credit card or government ID, those suck.
As described, this is an administrator self describing the age, which doesn't mean much to anyone except kids of people who apply parental controls to systems their kids have access to.
Accounts already require your "full name" but we don't consider that "full name verification".
This proposal seems to be in the spirit of least intrusive means to let parents opt into this stuff if they want, with no ties to identity compromising third party/state "verification".
Question is whether this sort of solution that at least gives parents some chance will satisfy the lawmakers long term. For the wave of laws now, it seems to suffice to self attest age.
Accounts already require your “full name” but we don’t consider that “full name verification”.
They don't require anything. You can leave that empty or just put John Doe. All that is required for an account on a Linux system is a username and a password.
Well strictly speaking the full name field is always there, but a lot of people have the full name "".
But less pedantic, perhaps require was the writing word, but same principle, put whatever you want in dob field, default to 1970 or something.
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Dang, am I about to become an Arch user?
I already got BSD on a spare laptop. Granted it was freeBSD and I think I might switch to OpenBSD since the latter's foundation is Canadian and not US based.
But yeah if they go through with this I will be uninstalling it off my gaming machine and switching to Arch 100%. I really appreciated that line about it "not being April fools" when it was introduced in their github thread.
Theres also artix which is basically arch without systemd.
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As long as I have root, I’m as old as I wanna be.
Not if age verification is done by a digital signature from the smart card in your government issued ID.
sudo rm /bin/evil-age-verification-binary
Or if it's done through systemd: git clone, remove the offending code, and compile.
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Welp... There goes Fedora!...
Oh wait, there aren't people chiming in to call me and others a fucking idiot and a stupid man child and all the other talking points for suggesting that the systemd merge was going to escalate?
Fascinating. I wonder where they all went. Maybe they're on the BSD forums now, but somehow I doubt it.
Sure I can chime in here.
You did actually read the post correct? Not just the title? The original poster, Jef, is talking about implementing a Unix socket or a dbus protocol similar to what apple already has. They are literally just referencing their definition for a struct.
So no this will not be ID verification, it won't ask for face scans, and it won't necessarily send the data anywhere.
The article is just using the big A word as some boogeyman to generate clicks and further rile up the community.
The systemd change is benign and this is not proof of your slippery slope theory.
Edit: I swear literacy rates in the linux community must be dropping.
I read it and just like the systemd merge, this isn't the end for this.
We can circle back when it turns into full blown identification standards though if its more comfortable for you to come to terms with the reality then.
Also, "won't necessarily send the data anywhere" isn't exactly comforting.
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Oh no more people are talking about how to implement the least possible invasive version of age verification! Now they're referencing standards for it!
Yeah, some of us really don't want our home PCs directly contributing to the surveillance state, and we sure as hell don't appreciate pre-compliance to the demands of increasingly fascistic states.
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inb4
sudo usermod —birthday “1970-01-01”
Ah yes, the beginning of history.
In the beginning, ~~God~~ K&R created the ~~dinosaurs~~ time_t.
Glad I ditched Fedora a while ago.
That's not enough. Just like with systemd, you will be made to care about what the corporatist Microsoft-garglers at Red Hat do, whether you use it or not.
We’re not legally required to have age verification here so if they try that shit here we’re just Gina nice to Arch/arch like :/
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Because they are corporate-backed I can understand why Fedora would need to think about this, but I would never use them again. The surveillance state will stay the fuck out of my devices. The discussion also seems to be centered on GNOME?
Is there a swastika in that image?
I didn't see it until you pointed it out. Imo looks unintentional, just an unfortunate result of the circuit traces being arranged as they are.
Yeah, tbh a swastica is an amazing symbol, such a shame nazis made it their emblem.
Linux Distros Could Tell Fedora To Eat Shit.
As if their consoderation of adopting AI into their dev stack wasn't enough.
Anyone have any recommendations for distros like Fedora that don't have systemd and won't consider using AI, but do support KDE?
MX Linux (Debian based) has a KDE version, and lets you choose a non-systemd init during the install.
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Devil's advocate, is it really that bad for someone who is a parent to be able to easily zone of their Linux distro for their children? And yeah, I get there are a number of methods to do this like locking down accounts, but something like this would have the potential of automating whom the rules apply to.
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age verification made easy:
user has internet access -> contracts can only be made by adults -> thus age is verified...
also... whoever provides minors internet access goes to jail
the whole point of age verification is control of adults. Kids are always just excuse, people who spout "think of the children!!" style rethoric always couldnt care less about kids. Those who do dont yell about it and actually do stuff to help kids, so its easy to tell them apart.
I know this is tongue in cheek but kids should be able to use the internet. It's important that kids become digitally literate and the wonders of the internet are great.
It's so obvious that social media has made the world an objectively worse place and this is just another extension of that. Social media companies should face consequences when they harm children, full stop. Personally, I'd be fine with banning social media outright but I understand some may have free speech concerns. However, I don't see how the interests of corporate capital and the attention economy can be squared inside this circle. Corpos will always want to maximize screen-time and they don't give a hot fuck who's brain they melt. Unfortuantely we live in a world where even the president of the US is a demented pedophile rapist so I don't have much hope for people like Zuck seeing the consequences of his actions.
Social media is a societal disease and until we actually deal with the root of the problem, which honestly doesn't have anything to do with kids at all and really boils down to capitalist incentives and their relation to the attention economy, we will continue to see harms inflicted upon the digital citizens of the world.
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What problem does this even solve? On Linux, what app would even be asking how old you are? Web browsers for sure, and maybe electron apps like Discord? But what else is there?
I'm on Bazzite (based on Fedora). I'm comfy with it, moving distros is a significant effort, so I'm very unlikely to ever jump ship. If I have to make a workflow that mirrors the official Bazzite images and neuters this age check, so be it. Not that complicated.
But I'm willing to bet the community will step up and maintain browsers/apps that don't have these age checks in the first place. Firefox has many forks that definitely won't, and Vesktop will probably stub this out when it inevitably comes to Discord. If there's nothing to ask for age verification, it doesn't matter what the OS can do.
I really don't see a need to burn a distro I'm comfortable with, even if the upstream maintainers are a little dumb. There a ton of ways to bend a Linux distro to your will without throwing your hands up.
What problem does this even solve? On Linux, what app would even be asking how old you are? Web browsers for sure, and maybe electron apps like Discord? But what else is there?
I'm on Bazzite (based on Fedora). I'm comfy
well, the app catalog, steam, certain games, ...
tbh parental controls would be useful to have. you can't be watching every minute if they are doing something inappropriate. usage time limits are also useful.
why are people so much against tools? we are so afraid of the slippery slope that we don't even consider to accept legitimately useful optional tools
can we acknowledge that what happens on the internet today is harmful to children? now, you either properly set up limits for them, or cut their access, if you want any good.
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bro... wtf should i use now??
Back to Arch??
Back to Debian??
or fuck it go TempleOS.....
Youtube requires age verification for some content since many years.
Out of curiosity, who here is still browsing YT without verified age?
Who browses YT logged in with their google account and verified age?
Too bad we don't have pool here. I would really like to see what % of people complaining about age verification here verified their age in their google account.
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