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submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Dorothy Hoffner, a 104-year-old Chicago woman whose recent skydive could see her certified by Guinness World Records as the oldest person to ever jump from a plane, has died.

Hoffner’s close friend, Joe Conant, said she was found dead Monday morning by staff at the Brookdale Lake View senior living community. Conant said Hoffner apparently died in her sleep on Sunday night.

Conant, who is a nurse, said he met Hoffner — whom he called Grandma at her request — several years ago while he was working as a caregiver for another resident at the senior living center. He said she had amazing energy and remained mentally sharp.

“She was indefatigable. She just kept going,” he said Tuesday. “She was not someone who would take naps in the afternoon, or not show up for any function, dinner or anything else. She was always there, fully present. She kept going, always.”

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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 165 points 2 years ago

It sounds like Dorothy lived life on her terms, right to the end.

Respect.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago
[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Stevie Ray Vaughan, now Dorothy. We'll never get to see what else they might have done had they not been snatched from us early by that cruel bitch fate.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 118 points 2 years ago

Good, going out on a high note is great.

Plus the benefit that her actual death was in her sleep.

My grandma wasn't skydiving, but she also died in her sleep, which was great. Was well the days before, then went to bed and never woke up. Much prefered to how grandpa slowly died of cancer while also having Alzheimers. That wasn't fun for anyone. Never waking up is certainly one of the best deaths one can have.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago

That's how my grandmother went out. Definitely preferable to many other ways. :( Sorry you had to go through that. Dementia of any kind is horrible.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

I didn't have to go through it directly. I was a child and my grandma didn't let me see my grandfather in his past months. It apparently was really bad and she wanted me to keep the memory of how he was when he was well. Heck, while the older family members got to visit, she basically took over the care on her own. She shouldered this burden of him losing himself so nobody else had to and continued on another decade afterwards. She was quite the strong woman.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago

No one’s going to say anything about “indefatigable”? Am I the only illiterate here that’s never heard of this word?

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 49 points 2 years ago

It's a really uncommon word. But hey, you get to be one of today's lucky 10,000.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Okay so it's actually pronounceable. According to google it goes like: in-dee-fa-tu-ga-bull

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

Well.... I guess I've never heard it spoken before lol

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

It means she couldn't be fatigued.

I figured that out without looking it up.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Why in- and de- tho?

To me that sounds like she couldn’t have her fatigue reversed.

But, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were correct, language gonna language.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's an old pigeon French use, if you're interested in that sort of thing it's etymology.

Namely there are several warships named indefatigable.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/indefatigable

1580s (implied in indefatigably), from French indefatigable (15c.), from Latin indefatigabilis "that cannot be wearied," from in- "not" (see in- (1)) + defatigare "to tire out," from de- "utterly, down, away" (see de-) + fatigare "to weary" (see fatigue (n.)).

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Dropping those etymonline links…. You’re making me hot

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

https://www.etymonline.com/word/hot

Old English hat "hot, flaming, opposite of cold," used of the sun or air, of fire, of objects made hot; also "fervent, fierce, intense, excited," from Proto-Germanic *haita- (source also of Old Saxon and Old Frisian het, Old Norse heitr, Middle Dutch and Dutch heet, German heiß "hot," Gothic heito "heat of a fever"), of uncertain origin, perhaps related to Lithuanian kaisti "to grow hot;" both could be from a substratum word.

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[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I prefer unfatigable myself.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago

You can’t teeg grandma.

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[-] graymess@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I only know it thanks to the Camelot song from Holy Grail.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

In war we're tough and able

Quite indefatigable

Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I have to push the pram a lot.

[-] hactar42@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

I would say you are more literate because it's in the last sentence, most people never read that far.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

It's not as common now as it used to be, and even back then it wasn't really common, but it's kind of like the word "inauspicious." I had never heard anyone use the word before, but then I went to India and every English speaking Indian seemed to use the word regularly. It was weird.

But yeah, indefatigable is a word I've heard before, both spoken in older movies and in older books.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd put money on the nurse being a roleplayer / watcher. It's a character attribute you can have in DnD 5e and I believe pops up in a few other tabletop games, so like, golems/robots "don't get tired."

Also totally possible he just likes older media of course.

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[-] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

In war we're tough and able, Quite indefatigable. Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable.

[-] auskast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I. Have. To. Push. The. Pram a loooooot.

[-] sock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

my thought process was IN (no) and FATIGUE (tired) per context clues it seems like someone who doesnt get tired

idk the word tho

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That is roughly what it means, yeah.

[-] paleasswhiteguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's a perfectly cromulent word!

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Indubitably

[-] Stephen304@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I came here to see if anybody else had that as a wordly wise word in high school

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[-] Zahtu@feddit.de 50 points 2 years ago

Kinda sad, but at the same time, I wish for this myself when being old. Dieing after having my most ambitious dreams being fulfilled, not looking back about missed opportunities or regrets.

[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is now.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Well, get on with it then

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

definitely hope it's in my sleep or on a lot of opiates

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

See this tale to a triumphant conclusion, and with elation in your heart, bid the final curtain fall.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Yep.

Do not go gently into that good night.

Old age should burn and rave at close of day;

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

She was the oldest person to skydive, there's proof that she was the oldest person to skydive. What's keeping them from giving her the record? Does it matter that she died? The record was already set.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

I’d assume her age and stuff need to be confirmed? Tho if it with Guinness it doesn’t really matter much, their entire record system is a sham.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Would there be a concern that the elderly might be pushed into potentially hazardous (due to their age/health) activities in attempts to make records? Guinness already refuses records that are dangerous. I could easily see the YouTube generation trying to talk grandma into some record attempts that wind up with her stroking out or breaking a hip. If I were Guinness I’d have some concerns about how to present stuff like this.

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[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

She can't defend her record, go for it centurians!

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

it’s amusing that journalists still give these “world records” any amount of energy.

a serious career for serious people.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

As serious as an edgy cynic on the Internet?

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

that was edgy?

i do this for free, you cant afford my day job.

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[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago

I wonder what’s the world record for dying after you set a world record.

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