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Ironically, they’re treating trans women the same way they treat cis women—as sexual objects who don’t deserve bodily autonomy.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, I'd say this is the opposite of ironic, it is extremely expected and logically follows from how the conservative brain/worldview works.

Basically it just boils down to 'being horny is a sin, sin is an evil, supernatural force or state of being, that acts with will, or comes from deliberate, intentional agency... thus anything that makes me horny, I must dominate, control, defeat, as an external enemy, and also deny that it makes me feel horny, to avoid looking like I have fallen (in) to sin.'

When you institutionalize the idea of a fundamental, carnal, human desire as supernaturally evil, everything relating to how you interact with or experience that desire becomes a shameful perversion, and then you have to hide that perversion by one means or another, and those means are often conquest, conquest involves 'othering' the enemy.

For all their talk of personal responsibility, their entire worldview is designed, with many layers of artificial constructs, to shield them from critical self-reflection, to channel them away from actually understanding themselves.

How can you possibly be responsible for yourself, if you do not even understand yourself, why you do the things you do?

To them, what is most important is the performance of conformity to a hierarchichal group identity role.

That's their 'gender'.

Not self-expression.

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[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

I don't give a damn what kind of porn people watch. I do care that this colors their perspective on how trans people actually live. Most of us aren't sex workers. And most of us that are don't do it by choice. We're just people trying to live our lives. This kind of thinking is incredibly dangerous, as it leads to believing that someone just being themselves in public is an act of sexual exhibitionism. I didn't transition as a sex thing. My life is not a costume. I transitioned and have lived my entire adult life as myself, worked my entire career and built my entire life around my transitioned name and gender. Rather than a 24/7 drag act, most days I'm wearing jeans and hoodie.

We're just trying to live our lives in peace. But a bunch of perverts are using their porn habits to inform their moral judgments about an entire class of people.

[-] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This ties into a bigger issue where almost nothing related to sexuality can ever be healthy or normal to many conservatives.

Sex to these conservatives is inherently deviant and filthy. Making conscious life decisions related to sexuality or sexual identity will never be just a life decision. It will be equivalent to actively engaging in sexual acts.

Being trans to them is actively paedophilic because it exposes children to the concept of sexuality and gender. Sex ed will be paedophilic to them because it does the same. Each person's actions are not the sole thing that defines them, but also their position in society as dictated by "what it has always been". Men have always led households by marrying women and having kids, therefore men that don't are a threat.

Conservatism is quite black or white when it comes to things like identity or introspection. It is an ideology that very frequently wages war on self questioning and exploration in exchange for compliance and conformism. It's why many conservatives hate universities, scientists and partially why they hate immigrants. The entire ideology grows by appealing to people who do not want to be intellectually challenged. It's especially attractive to those that don't want to understand other ways of thinking.

Conservatism as an ideology always exploits the greatest potential weakness of the left wing: naivety, and presents itself as the "responsible" or "reasonable" solution to a reckless and harmful left wing. They frame things like empathy and humanitarianism as weaknesses rather than virtues.

It's why most of the conservative rhetoric revolves around "being taken advantage of" or "being scammed by" this or that group. They love stories about immigrants exploiting the system, cheating or stealing because it proves their worldview that what's foreign and unknown is out to get them. It is an ideology driven by fear.

And the biggest problem is that, unlike progressivism (which also has its ideological vices and weaknesses), conservatism never seeks to help the weak or empower the vulnerable. Instead it seeks to maintain the hierarchy and keep people in their place. In the US that translates to keeping immigrants weak, keeping black people down, keeping women in the kitchen, keeping white men ahead, keeping the US as an imperial power, and keeping its allies subservient.

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[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

Huh, and here I thought we didn't like any of the same things.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

You see the performers as people. They see the performers as fuckmeat. You are not the same.

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Very good point. I also see now that this is only focused on search terms for MtF folk. I'm an equal opportunity gooner, I enjoy some fine-ass FtM peeps in porn too. I have a feeling they don't.

[-] EldritchFeminity 12 points 1 week ago

Republicans don't believe that FtM people exist. In their minds, they're just delusional women who wish they were men, but it makes perfect sense to them that women wish they were men. It would be weirder to them to hear that not all women wish they were men. It's completely part of the sexism and patriarchy.

The reason that they're so obsessed with trans women by comparison is that it goes against their entire worldview. A man who wants to be a woman? Why would anyone ever want to be a woman?! There's also the bigotry and everything else, of course, but the fact that it defies what they see as the natural order or hierarchy of the sexes drives them crazy.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Everyday I find myself completely baffled by human behavior. There are days I legitimately do not think I'm the same species.

If I hate someone, I genuinely hate 1athem. Like Gary that I worked with in 2003. 20+ years later, and I STILL think he's one of the biggest 1assholes I ever met.

1At NO POINT do I want Gary porn. Maybe Gary death porn, but not sexual porn. I'd like to see him walk into a walk-in closet, when a bunch of spinning blades shoot out and cut him into tiny dice sized cubes.

But these people claim to hate trans folks, but then go home and beat their meat to them? Where's the hate then??? If you're going to hate someone, truely hate them because they stand for everything you dispise. Otherwise, you're just saying your own values mean nothing to you, and you shouldn't be taken seriously at face value.

And in this particular case, why even bother hating trans people at all? Just accept trans people for who they are, and bust all the nuts you want without being a hypocrite.

Aside from kids and animals, there aren't many kinks I'd look down on people for, as long as they're just true to themselves. I may not like the idea of licking feet, but if thats your thing, own up to it! Be yourself!

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

Question:
What's up with those 1s in front of your 'a's in paragraph 2?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Typos. I was walking while typing this, and my finger must have touched the keyboard a few times.

[-] exu@feditown.com 20 points 1 week ago
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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Most people are more complex than black-and-white, most of my co-workers are freenemies.

Enemies to lovers is such a common trope too.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Deviation from social expectations can be attractive as can novelty. Fetishization of a group is often associated with the group being perceived as exotic and possibly even taboo. And there are a lot of people who when they feel shame about their desires lash out against those they desire. The sort of guy who feels the need to tell everyone he's not into fat chicks? Yeah he's getting rejected by them in secret.

Your example is someone you personally hate because Gary fucking sucks. But if there were a group of Garys who were just a bit different that you were always told not to interact with because they're bad despite the fact that they all seem perfectly nice if a bit odd. Well a certain portion of your community would find themselves torn between the excitement of the exotic (hell you don't see a Gary every day, and you usually have to go to a certain part of town to see one) and the expectations of not interacting with them, and this would lead to shame and anger, because to an unexamined and immature person these Garys are seducing them, tempting them away from what they know to be the rightful separation of good normal people and Garys. This is even worse if anyone could turn out to have always been a Gary. Maybe some of those people are afraid they might be a Gary but are afraid to even think about it enough to discount it. So they may start calling to ensure there's no chance of them accidentally running into a Gary and making sure nobody becomes a Gary hoping that that will keep them safe and maybe even punish the Garys who did this to them.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Goddamn, I'd really like to see this Gary fellow.

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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

The only exposure Republicans have to the outside world is through porn

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, that's so unbelievably not fucking surprising. A weird amount of harassment I've gotten for being trans has been kinda (or occasionally extremely) sexual. Also the redder the area the more I get street harassment.

ETA: Oh upon reading the article, the city I'm thinking of (Lexington, KY, I basically couldn't take a walk without being catcalled there) is in the top 10 cities.

And yeah, anti trans bigotry is interesting because it seems to be an alliance of exterminationist bigotry ("x people should not exist or should be hidden and we should work towards that goal", examples of targeted groups include disabled people, Jewish people, and gay people) and supremacist bigotry ("x people are our lessers and must be forced into their place beneath us", anti black racism is the classic example). You have plenty of transphobes who just want us gone no matter what, but you also have quite a few who think our place is as discreet sex workers and are mad that we are insisting we deserve to live in society as equals and do whatever work we want. They were fine with us as prostitutes, but not as mechanics, as shameful side pieces but how dare we say we deserve to be spouses.

That perspective of us is deeply entwined in the insistence that anything pertaining to us is sexual. They look at us and reduce us solely to the lens of sex then condemn us for it. Then when some of us internalize that our only value as people is as sex objects they point and say "see look, we told you".

[-] null@lemmy.org 39 points 1 week ago

I ain't beatin' my meat to trans porn! I swear! I'm just... I'm just researching the enemy!

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah 14 hours of researchin, i really gotta know what to look out for. Yeah and those noises i was frying some chicken, nothing goes better than cock with researchin.

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[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everything going on with the femboy heatmap is incredible. All the red and blue areas of the southwest doing the handshake meme. The population cachment areas of fucking Scranton and Pueblo of all places going all in for some reason. The smooth cultural gradient in Cascadia.

It's also in the wrong article because femboys aren't trans, but it is funny to contrast it with the map for 'shemale' (eugh)

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago

They don't even hide it, the Manosphere paradoxaly loves femboys.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

The straightest thing you can do is blow your homie.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Its also like they all hate undocumented immigrants but only hire them for work.

[-] Ravell@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My dad used to removed about immigrants taking jobs, but would swing by Home Depot to grab some Mexicans whenever he needed extra hands on a construction project. Conservatives are just hypocritical morons.

EDIT: Wow, this place bans the no-no synonym for the word "complains"? What in the seven nanny hells is that.

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[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Article says there are more searches for trans-related keywords in GOP areas. However it doesn't say anything about trans porn searches vs cis porn searches. It wouldn't surprise me if conservative areas have more searches for porn in general, so all the numbers are higher. Anyway the article uses a lot of statistical jargon without seeming to check this basic issue. FAIL.

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[-] kerrigan778 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also explains why all the porn of us calls us slurs. I hate it.

(Seriously, it's so hard finding trans porn that feels like it's for trans people instead of for people that want to dehumanize us)

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

I mean we've seen Alex Jones with a "Naughty tbabe" tab open on his phone.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forbidden_fruit_is_the_sweetest

Proverb

forbidden fruit is the sweetest

  1. Forbidden things seem more appealing; people desire things more if (or, in some way, because) they can't have them.
[-] Lag@piefed.world 8 points 1 week ago

Also curiousity due to lack of sexual education.

[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago

And this is also why violence often happens, as some of these men can't deal with their own attraction, and rather kill to hide it.

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago

**Search terms for the list ranking include only: “shemale”, “tranny”, “femboy”, and “ladyboy”

They're going to be missing a large chunk by excluding drawn/cartoon/anime type categories and terms like futa.

Although, not sure how well the southern peeps are gonna know any words coming from other cultures to reference what they're looking for.

[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago

I think it's interesting that the terms are predominately slur form too, which you'd expect to be more common amongst conservatives.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

Ha! Next thing you are going to tell me is that gay meet up apps like Grinder get overloaded at Republican events.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Interesting, but not sure the data proves the headline. The best they can say is that such searches originating from red states are a significant portion of all US searches.

Obsessed: no definition or evidence to support this.

Republicans: not a definitive connection, though plausible.

I don't want to say this is irresponsible reporting, but it's not factually accurate either.

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[-] Aatube@thriv.social 15 points 1 week ago

the article does have this headline but doesn’t actually back it up (convincingly) at all. it seems to thinks googling ‘“shemale”, “tranny”, “femboy”, and “ladyboy”’’ counts as searching for trans porn. kelsey libert doesn’t seem to have any relevant qualifications either

[-] BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hell ya! I was worried I was a republican their for a second ( /s ) luckily those are not the terms I use to search for trans porn but like I also show trans people and people regardless of gender respect.

Side note, I get the other terms coming from right wing ignorant assholes but feel femboy is not that bad, am I wrong on this? I have not yet read the article.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

probably also gay porn too, since thier skinhead/nazi categories

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[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am honestly not surprised.

I knew some people in the calvinist bible-belt regions in Holland (they're very strict, a bit similar to mormon, almost amish-like in terms of strictness except not having any aversion to technology). For example washing a car on sunday is absolutely out of the question and most people wear black those days. If you don't show up in church the whole village will hate you.

Anyway so the video rental shops in those regions were buzzing with the worst kinda porn. One of my friends managed video rental shop and he said the relative porn amount was 2-3x bigger than in the city areas.

This is for people for whom porn is highly illegal according to their religion. Somehow it causes some kind of attraction for them.

I'm very atheist and sex-positive and very much into kink, polyamory etc but it was never because of the 'forbidden' element for me. So I find it hard to understand that. But I've definitely seen it being a big thing yes.

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[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

Who just searches on google for porn? wtf? That can't be a legitimate sample of the public, can it?

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[-] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Needs to skip the maps and go right to the charts at the bottom. I was thinking this was a junk study since the map was pretty close to just being a population density map until I got down to the charts. Not a surprise since they're measuring volume of searches and that'll always correlate to population.

[-] BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh shit.. oh no.. this can't fucking be.. am I Republican?!?! /s

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[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It's just research!

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