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[-] jonesey71@lemmus.org 86 points 1 month ago

The only reason he would marry a 9 year old is to give a pretend legitimacy to the fact that he is going to rape her. He already raped children without that veil of decency, why would he start now. No one is fooled, he would just rape her without bothering with the pretend stuff like religion.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

thank you for reminding me of the depressing semester my high school sophomore year where a freshman married a 26 year old creepy police officer academy dropout. they tried to do it in-state, but they needed both parental and judicial approval. the parents said "well they're going to have sex anyways so if they get married at least they won't be sinning [according to our cult ass religion]". To the judge. The judge spent an hour yelling at both sets of parents how they had failed at protecting the 14 year old from the pedo 26 year old cop.

A month later, they got married in Reno. Across state lines. Sounds a lot like trafficking to me.

Both of their parents and older siblings were completely ostracized. Younger siblings weren't blamed, but the older ones were expected to beat the shit out of the cop wannabe. They did not, and once he was married, the change in marital status (even though it was to a child) got him in the door at the academy. But after a year their parents and siblings moved to Utah.

[-] MTZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right? That feels like n appropriate reaction. Thank you.

It's the thing I think of when they say "child marriage is legal with judicial approval" like, no judge I've ever met would stand for that shit (and I grew up at the courthouse, dad had me delivering documents. Wish he delivered some cash for that) but I mean that might just be a product of my locale.

[-] popularpenguin@piefed.social 70 points 1 month ago

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

[-] LightYagami@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago

Because of this guy, I can't use this sentence anymore that I used too :(

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[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 month ago

Americans elected a pedophile and don’t even care

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why does your country buy arms and goods from the USA and use the US Dollar in international trade?

It's like people from your country don't even care and they are fine doing business with pedophiles.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Not the first time and probably not the last time.

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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

Islam limits you to 4 wives, though, which is a problem for Trump because golf courses have 18 holes.

[-] Emotional_Engi@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

Yeah but you can have unlimited slaves, (Jariya).

[-] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

But, like 4 at a time, or 4 in total? Because he could rotate them through if necessary, he wouldn't have a problem with that.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Twelver Shia will let you get a temporary marriage, in case you want to fuck a prostitute. So you could probably rotate through a harem.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Islam probably also has some sort of prohibition against burying your dead wife in an unmarked grave on your golf course, so I think the point is moot.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

4 wives, but the quran explicitly says that muslim men are allowed to own, rape, and beat as many non believing women as they could kidnap and enslave.

[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 27 points 1 month ago
[-] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Its a meme dawg.

I dislike AI taking jobs and shit but for memes, fuck it send it.

Shit was funny.

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Yea, gen AI is precisely suited to low-effort endeavours.

[-] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago

I bet he could seriously do this and nothing would change. Maga would think what insanity fox news would tell them.

[-] EatMyPixelDust 14 points 1 month ago

Maga would support it because most Maga are pedos anyway. There's always some Maga pastor etc in the news each week for molesting kids or having a computer full of CSAM.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

~~week~~ day

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[-] Cattail@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Wait till you read the Bible And Moses' soldiers took in underaged spoils of war as sex slaves

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Judaism, Christianity, Muslim; all have a long history of enslaving, raping, plundering, and murdering, with centuries of evidence and justification in their scriptures.

We can't abolish religion, that just gets them excited, they all love to be martyrs. So, tax them, like everybody else.

They can bitch about taxes and everyone else on Earth will be like "yeah it's a bummer". Why I have to finance their horror show is beyond me.

And remember, their tax benefits are far above and beyond what any non-profit charity gets.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 month ago

At least for Christianity, Jesus was in favour of paying taxes, so churches should follow what Jesus taught.

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[-] dotCody@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Its a terrific deal, a FANtasTic deal! And only i could have come up with it, Don-Al-Shabir Dump of Saudi Arabia! I love the Saudis - especially that MBS guy!

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago

That was a different culture. It's 26 with inflation /s

[-] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

This is islamophobic. Especially considering Aisha’s age is a subject of debate among scholars and historians.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

It's not islamophobic, she was 9 years old

There's no debate

Your claim is factophobic

[-] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 40 points 1 month ago

That's not true, there is some debate as to whether the marriage was indeed consumated when she was 9, or right after they were married, which would have made her 6.

She was also accused of adultry at 13.

Not really. Saying there is 'no debate' isn't actually factually accurate. While some traditional sources mention that age, there is a massive amount of historical and academic scholarship that suggests otherwise. The claim of age 9 have been used by bad faith actors on all sides. (Some fanatics to justify child marriage, and other fanatics who think their religion/group of people are superior to muslims in particular).

Here is a decent article explaining this if u wanna engage with it in good faith. There have been various debates on it and hadith is not considered accurate always, unlike the quran. The claim she was that young may have originated from sectarian divides among early muslims for whom virginity meant being “pure”. U dont really need to particularly agree with the claim that she was not 9yo as a total fact. The Bukhari hadiths saying she is 9 is very well accepted by a vast majority of rhe fundamentalist muslim word, but not everyone. Saying there is “no debate” at all is a factually wrong statement as well. And reduces all of a particular group of people as brainwashed fanatics who support the horror of child marriage.

https://newlinesmag.com/essays/oxford-study-sheds-light-on-muhammad-underage-wife-aisha/

[-] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"The Muslim scholar Yasmin Amin makes an interesting point, however, noting that the report in question is not technically a hadith at all, since it is ultimately attributed to Aisha and not Muhammad. She makes the argument that traditionalist Muslims can and should differentiate between prophetic and non-prophetic reports found in Sahih Bukhari."

Obviously the article has a lot more content than this but I found this funny. "Don't listen to the kid he is accused of raping as a child, listen to the prophet instead. And just ignore that.

Also this one "The attribution of this young age to Aisha should thus be understood as reflecting not chronological or historical accuracy but, rather, a symbolic concern for her virginity, chastity and purity."

Lol what bullshit. come on

That paragraph is supposes to highlight the difference between hadith from the prophet vs haditths that are just oral collections from diff ppl. The author is saying here that the hadith does not carry the same weight as other bukhari hadiths because its not attributed to the prophet and is merely an oral claim by hisham(someone who has memory issues) that “someone said that Aisha said she was 9”

You are quoting the ending parts of the article which have nothing to do with the original argument it presents and simply is there to cleanup and establish the new status quo, and these tiny “things” whatever you call them are meaningless in the context of the greater discussion.

The symbolic part is discussed all through the article (for eg age 40 as a symbol for being wise, and for extra info age 70 in islamic world is considered the timeline for eternity(sorry if I cant explain it well, english aint my first language, but for eg u say to smone like “bro why r u so weak, r u already 70yo?”)

You not liking it does not change the fact that ages were used a lot more for symbolism back then than the actual time since the person has been born. There were no objectively correct ways of knowing smones birthdate back then except for word of mouth (if ppl cared to remember, because islam uses the lunar calendar, its much more complicated to track birthdays and date than how we do today)

Why not quote some of the earlier longer parts about timeline inconsistencies and sectarian incentives, those are up for discussion.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is apologia.

Why, through centuries of Muslim scholarship, was this conclusion not came to earlier? There are thousands and thousands of pages written by thousands and thousands of Muslim commentators and scholars that did not have a problem with her age at marriage, nor consider it particularly notable. It’s only now, at a Western university, in a world which unequivocally does not accept people fucking 9 year olds that the story changes.

Aisha was active a long time after Mohammad’s death. How old are we suggesting she was married at?

There are other hadiths that mention her being young (playing with dolls). So we’re throwing out a Hadith that many many Muslims have historically accepted, that seems to align with other hadiths that many many Muslims have historically accepted.

This is a clear Occam’s razor situation.

Is it “Christophobic” to point out that Mary was fourteen when God impregnated here? That seems to make the Christian god a clear pedophile.

Aisha was such a badass I wish some radical feminist Muslim women would retool the entire religion around her though.

[-] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well you have a point. But I would suppose that the idea is child marriage was a very common thing even upto the last century, and is still common today in less developed parts of the world. Since no one considered it an issue, no one questioned the particular hadiths either. Also there is no “centuries of scholarship” done specifically on Aishas age, it was a hadith that everyone ran with because there were no reason for ppl to doubt it. Islamic jurisprudence were about laws and ethics, not history. And whatever scholarly work has been done have pointed strongly to the idea Aisha was not 9. (Even tho ibn-kathir, in the 1300s, ran into timeline issues and has reported about how Aishas age dont match up, and the timeline that he compiled suggested aisha was in her late teens. So it is technically mot even true that no one had any issues before the west pointed it out)

I find it weird that everyone is getting so defensive here, quick to calling it apologia and bullshit. You are allowed to believe whatever you want about Islam (or christianity, or religion itself). But what I was just trying to point out in my original reply that not all muslims especially in the west and academia today, agree or accept the fact Aisha was 9. Again many still do. But it does not really help that the excuse is used by Islamophobes all around the world. Its the same as quoting the worse parts of Talmud and calling every jew a violent person. Even though most prolly never though abt it and might be conflicted if u tell this, or outright deny its supposed to be taken literally, or contextualize whatever. You can say that is all apologia, so whatever really ig, at the end people just believe whatever they want to believe, and hurling insults and accusing them of promoting child rape is unlikely to bring a change in their worldview.

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[-] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 30 points 1 month ago

Eh, Mary was a teenager when God knocked her up. Seems religion and power are just convenient excuses for old dudes to fuck kids. Always have been. Fuck religion and the morons who follow it.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

dudes i am so glad i worship a giant space crab. the only fucking going on is people screaming "FUCK" right before it eats them when it comes to devour the planet.

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[-] dotCody@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Her father gave her as a gift to mohammad, he's not exactly concerned about her

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[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Nobody is debating it. It's literally in the scriptures. The only people who deny it are dishonest muslims who don't want to admit their prophet is a pedophile and ignorant westerners who defend something horrific even though they know nothing about it because they have a white savior complex

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[-] aviationeast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

So that's what Trump and Iran have talked about....

[-] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

This post made me "do my own research" and it's true... Mohammed did marry a 9 year old.

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[-] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

He's not interested in a 9yo wife.

That is someone he'd have to pay to take care of.

And worse - she would grow up....

His joy is in treating people, including young children, like toilet paper.

Disposable.

Use them, get off on their tears and pain, confusion and begging, then throw them away.

This meme doesn't understand how rapists like our POTUS work. And people need to understand.

His whole personality is about exploiting everyone he can and getting off on it. As much as possible.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I am not even mad you are turning class war into religion war, just disappointed you use AI for this.

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

American Christian Evangelicals want the end of the world prophecy to happen.

Israel fucking hates Muslims and Islam and want to reclaim their holy land. They're Jewish supremacists.

Iran fucking hates Jews and Judiasm and really fucking hate Israel, and not because of the Gaza genocide. Out of these three, Iran would merely prefer to stick to proxy conflicts and not direct conflict, but they still fucking despise Jews.

They're all religious nutcases. This is basically 40k level mindless hatred, every group is evil.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Shia and sunni also hate each other as well as everybody else

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Its both. Its religious cope to suggest that religious belief is not a motivating factor for a significant portion of this war and its participants. Both among the owner class and working class.

Religion is fucking stupid and harmful.

[-] bold_omi@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

I think this is just photoshop. Do you see any signs of AI that I may have missed?

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