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We.should recgonize ebike restrictions as baltent attempts to limit certain peoples mobility
I see most of these attempts to limit/regulate e-bikes as another classic case of "let's make it worse for everybody because a few people can't behave", but this is a new low, wow.
And those "a few people" are mostly motorists who hit cyclists
I was thinking more of your typical irresponsible users, anecdotal evidence I know, but most red light runners I see are e-bikers. Very easy to point at them as a "reasonable" basis for laws like that
"I'm too wasted to use a pushbike so I should have an electric motorcycle" isn't the strong argument you think it is.
What about riding distances further than one would be capable or willing to ride without a motor?
Many people wouldn't be interested in riding, say, 10-15km each direction especially in a hilly area, but a motor could be a game changer.
The idea that you're not tough enough if you don't pushbike it is just ignorance and ironically more likely to push people into driving or other modes of transport.
It's already illegal to ride a bike while intoxicated, you can loose your drivers permit on a pushbike
attempts to limit certain peoples mobility
why would law makers want to limit certain peoples mobility ?
Discrimination against young people. They can't use social media either, nor can thru get around on am ebike. Make it make sense without coming to the obvious conclusion that society just hates them
Young people also can't drink, can't drive, and are belong to the special class of "minors" according to the law. Is all of this discrimination against young people also ?
The fact that they can't drive is highly relevant here. Their other options are being taken away. Why?
Why?
Well thats my original question.
The comment I replied to claims that its discrimination against young people, and i am asking why lawmakers would do that?
The law in general identifies a range of things that young people should not be empowered to participate in.
It could only be "discrimination" if there were no reason for the law other than to disadvantage those young people.
The law is poorly considered, but its not discrimination.
Beyond stupid, straight up backsliding a useful, accessible mobility form to appear strict on teens. The law as it stood had anything powered at more than 25 km/h or greater than 500W power illegal (arguably already overly restrictive, I can see a case for 30-35 km/h). All that was needed was to enforce it, which was happening, if sporadically. But nooo, car brain go brrrr. Not to give them ideas, but analogue bikes are allowed on roads without license or medical check, what difference is a motor at that speed ?
Rutting LibNats in QLD just can't help fucking shit up since Jo, hopefully back to Siberia for the next decade yet again next election.
We need to stop discriminating against teens. First Australia bans them from the internet, then bans then from getting around outside by themselves. The malicious intent is undenyable
But they can't vote and persecuting them appeals to the LN core demographic of miserable bastards. /s-ish.
Also look at the world we're handing them, JFC, give 'em a break.
I don't understand what the deal is with those miserable people
It's often used as an in for more invasive legislation in the futur.
In the name of the kids and/or security, politicians implement the framework needed to further control the population and profit from it.
25 is too low. My speed on regular bike is 30 when I am in mood or 40 if in hurry
Yeah, but it's this way in Australia and most (all?) of Europe where it came from. Nothing stopping you piling on the watts yourself to go faster, or downhill, but no power after 25.
You're comparing the maximum speed of pushbikes with the minimum speed of ebikes.
The limit was 250w in Qld.
“It’s going to restrict safe, legal ebiking in a way we think is pretty unfair and pretty dumb, at a time when we really should be encouraging everyone to get on a bike as a response to the fuel crisis,” he said.
Basically this.
The existing laws are inadequate and I do think they need to be overhauled.
However, there seem to be multiple points of stupidity in this case.
There is no good reason to do this. Not everyone can drive, and some people just shouldn't drive, even if they technically can.
Less cars on the road is better for everyone.
On top of that, Australia doesn't want teens on social media but they want to take away their limited options for mobility? What are those teenagers supposed to do then? Drugs???
To quote @supakaity in a conversation we just had "Thank fuck we're getting out of here"
Yes flee QLD, come to Vic!
Close. Uruguay :P
Wow, big move. Looking up Uruguay, it seems interesting.
I've half heartedly been planning a move to Argentina for years now, but Argentina is currently not really a viable option. So as we're getting closer to it being real rather than just vague plans, we started looking for other options. And Uruguay is a pretty good alternative. And it's right next door to Argentina :)
That’s fair, seems to be a pretty inclusive culture from the 10 minutes I researched it. Do you speak Spanish?
At about a B1 level. And I specifically speak that variety of Spanish (rioplatense)
I've previously lived (short term) in Buenos Aires for a few months as well
E bikes should be regulated, those things are heavy and people fly down the bike path effortlessly, faster than I can when i really push myself on a regular bicycle
but obviously anything a colonial government will do will be totally backwards and only end up harming people
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