EndeavourOS Moving to KDE Plasma by Default : linux

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago

What big update? Wayland has been pretty usable (on AMD, anyway) for a while now.

[-] YaBoyMax@programming.dev 43 points 1 year ago

Presumably Plasma 6.0, which will fix a large number of remaining Wayland issues via Qt 6.

[-] anon232@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Will that make it more usable for nvidia users? I hope to someday try SteamOS with nvidia but I think most of the wayland issues are what's preventing that.

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland/Nvidia for KDE specifically, see bottom of https://arewewaylandyet.com/ for others

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Will that make it more usable for nvidia users?

Don't bet on it. For a while NVidia had hired a guy to implement EGLStreams support in KWin and other issues around supporting the Nvidia driver but since a year he's gone: https://invent.kde.org/users/ekurzinger/activity

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 1 year ago

The task bar, for example, will often stop being useable and freeze up. I have had the digital clock widget freeze up on me, which requires a relog to fix.

Thankfully this has been tracked down, and will be fixed for Plasma 6. If you run into it, you can hit Alt+F2 and run kwin_wayland --replace which will restart the shell.

If you go into edit mode, and edit the task bar widget that shows your running applications, disable the option that shows window previews upon hovering over the application. Apparently that is the thing that causes the renderer to fail on non Intel GPU systems. Here's the bug report that goes over the whole history if you're interested.

Definitely feel you on the overall Nvidia Wayland KDE issues. I really wish I was in a position to be able to pickup an AMD GPU.

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago

There's still weird bugs with Plasma Wayland unrelated to GPUs too. For whatever reason, dragging a file from a notification (e.g. Spectacle when a screenshot is saved) to Discord will make the shell just quit and restart...

[-] angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

On AMD is usually great but still has bugs, klipper with xwayland is a mess and cant be disabled, for example. But on Nvidia is ... Bad

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

I think for NVIDIA or other proprietary drivers like AMDGPUPRO, Ublue images are best. They have images that they build with the NVIDIA driver and everything preinstalled, if an update fails, they will simply not ship it, if it breaks something on your system, you simply roll back.

And in contrast to regular Fedora Atomic (Silverblue, Kinoite,...) it has all the Codecs and drivers included, so you can directly run things like Resolve or Games on it with minor installation.

[-] lamentdecay@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I have so many issues with X11 crashing for me on KDE. I hope Wayland will be better...

[-] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago

I use EndeavourOS with KDE and it's wonderful!

Does anyone know offhand the issues Calamares has with Xfce?

[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"KDE Plasma offers a more native development experience for the team and therefore it is easier to maintain. This is the main and only reason for this switch"

As a user I switched from KDE to XFCE, and found it to be an improvement. But I've never done any development involving Xfce.

[-] lamentdecay@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

What do you like better about XFCE?

[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, they're both pretty good.

Xfce starts off closer to the way I like things and requires less messing around with the config to get it all the way there. It changes less frequently, which I appreciate. It uses slightly less memory, seems to go wrong less often, and has fewer things I have no interest in like 'kwallet' or whatever. And I appreciate what seems to me its more approachably modular nature (which I've used only for a couple of minor things.)

[-] iso@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

for me, simplicity.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

EndeavourOS is the distro that stopped my distro-hopping addiction. Installed it over a year ago and haven't left since. Now this made me love it even more. KDE plasma has come along ways. I think Nate Graham has a lot to do with the progress Plasma made. Dude is awesome (so is every other volunteer of course).

[-] nirogu@social.vivaldi.net 19 points 1 year ago

Great news. Seems that most of the community uses KDE anyway, so this should make things faster for most installations

[+] Sprite@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

I plan to switch soon from Manjaro to Endeavour, and hadn't yet decided whether I wanted to stick with Xfce. Well, with this endorsement plus reports of good overall performance I think I'll give Plasma a shot 🙂

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

At some point I'll probably need something that supports Wayland, but their custom XFCE is so nice, I love it

[-] Perroboc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Does it use systemd-boot by default?

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Last I installed it, it had it as the default with an option to use I believe grub.

[-] NathanUp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Can confirm

[-] Perroboc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome, thanks!

[-] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm using EndeavourOS with Sway

[-] angrymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a default? I installed it at least 5 times in the last year and I don't remember doing more than clicking a single button to choose KDE, but I had to choose at some point. But my memory is shit

[-] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

This only applies for the offline installation

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