275
i hope it happens 🤩 (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 6 days ago by not_IO to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
all 45 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

not waiting for 13.37?

debian version uwu

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 64 points 6 days ago

Is 1312 the new cool number? I thought we were still at 67?

[-] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 115 points 6 days ago

1312 has been the cool number for as long as it has stood for ACAB.

I had never heard of it before... But then I'm not a native speaker so real life people never use it.

You see ACAB in graffiti, now and then. Tha's it.

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

For a long time I thought AcaB meant "ACAdémie de la Bière.

I still feel dumb to this day.

[-] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 9 points 6 days ago

I'm in. I'll study hard, promise.

We mostly have a thing against cops here. Do check the curriculum.

[-] poinck@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago
[-] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 7 points 6 days ago

Already Clashing Against Bourgeoisie

[-] GardenData61371@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

All Cats Are Based

[-] Wutchilli@feddit.org 60 points 6 days ago

1312 (acab) is pretty old tho

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Am I the only one that is annoyed with version numbering in which 13.12 comes after 13.4?

It creates a numerically out of order version increment that bothers me to a degree that it shouldn't.

13.04 and 13.12 would really make much more sense. If you need more than 100 versions, well, you probably should have hit a major release cycle or started with %03d format next time and just pad out x.99... until you go to x+1.

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

Nah. It's not meant to be decimal points. It's separation between numbers

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

%YYYY.MM format is a separation between numbers. But still increments in a numerically ordered way. I'm not saying I don't understand version numbers. I'm saying padding zeros makes it easier to read.

It doesn't really matter with a release cycle that has less than 10 version increments. Which is fine if you're only ever gonna hit 13.9 in very rare cases.

But if you constantly have x.yy version numbers. You should probably start with some zero padding. All I'm saying.

13.1
13.11
13.12
13.13
13.2
13.3

Is ugly and annoys me.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

But they're integers not strings, so are sorted differently...

I'm sorry if your head treats them as strings but that's like, a you problem, man...

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Welcome to the thread. It's something that annoys me in which I asked if it annoyed anyone else. I'm not sure why you're trying to explain away my annoyance with information I already know.

Also, filenames are quite literally strings. That's how the image binaries will be sorted. As filenames.

release_1.1.bin
release_1.10.bin
release_1.2.bin

And yes I'm aware of sort -V. I can still have an OCD annoyance with it. I swear to God if someone replies again telling me why I shouldn't be annoyed.

At this point I'm more annoyed with replies than I was version numbers.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, you're right - I was thinking of them in isolation like a silly billy

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

All good. I'm in a piss poor mood too and just rambling.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Its like that thing though, where you introduce someone to a new pet peeve they've never noticed - so thanks, I guess...

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

ls | sort -V now that I've cursed you.

But I'm running out of mental storage space for bash commands. I wish I could clear some space.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Make a bash alias once, get the correct behavior forever.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

What's worse is making a bunch of bash aliases that are easier to remember and then you hit an environment you can't use your bashrc in for whatever reason. Then you have no idea how to actually do anything.

I try to only use aliases for things that I repeat often but are only going to be used in my specific environment.

Unless you mean

alias ls="ls | sort -V"

Which would be really awful to do for obvious reasons.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That example is indeed what I meant. What's awful about it?

edit: I use a customized ls alias. Most of the time it's fine, and when I occasionally need the default output, I can type /bin/ls, no new alias to memorize. The history command suggests I do this pretty infrequently, though ymmv.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

ls doesn't have the version sort option so since you're aliasing a piped command to sort you'd be passing any additional commands to sort

So

ls -r

Would actually be

/bin/ls | /bin/sort -V -r

You could overcome this with xargs but it's just definitely a bad idea in general to alias a standard command piped into another command. Will cause headaches.

Where as something like

ls="/bin/ls -r"

Just defaults ls to a reverse sort and you can still safely add additional args.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Thank for explaining, I hadn't really thought about trying to add additional flags at runtime.

By the way, my ls actually has it:

       -v     natural sort of (version) numbers within text
[-] Alberat@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

for f in $(find /); do mv $f $(echo $f | sed 's/.([0-9])./.0\1./'; done

ftfy

edit: dont actually run that

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Too late. My problem is fixed. But now grub won't load.

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Dolphin sorts them as you want, don't all file managers?

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

Have you seen formats that use unpadded seconds, minutes and hours? 11:4:7 is just beautiful time formatting 🥹 /s

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

Version "numbers" are actually period seprated lists of integers.

Equally valid could be (13(12(0))).

All i ask, as a humble admin please dont make breaking changes in the minor or patch colums.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

You didn't really need to open a .jpg, did you?

[-] kevinwells@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This has always bugged me, too! I understand it. It isn't inaccurate. I've probably done it myself in the past. But the way it looks bugs me.

[-] not_IO 7 points 6 days ago

i get that and it was my initial reaction too, but doing it differently would force a major update after versipn x.9 which makes no sense either

[-] four@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

It bothers me a little too

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Man i think debian would go 14.0 before that

edit:typos

[-] not_IO 16 points 6 days ago

Debian 12 is at 12.13 now so, there is a chance 🤞

https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

Every patch you push to me...

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 4 points 6 days ago

I need a little room to breathe

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago

I hope it ships with a desktop background of a burning police car.

this post was submitted on 20 Mar 2026
275 points (100.0% liked)

linuxmemes

30760 readers
2257 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
  • Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
  • Don't come looking for advice, this is not the right community.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  • 5. 🇬🇧 Language/язык/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. 🇬🇧🇦🇺🇺🇸
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
  • 6. (NEW!) Regarding public figuresWe all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations.
  • Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
  • We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
  • Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

    founded 2 years ago
    MODERATORS