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[-] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 133 points 1 week ago

Okay but, installing an apk is not the kind of thing a scammer does. They'll just install some standard off the shelf remote access software from the play store

This very much feels like they just needed to come up with a new justification for this process and opted for scammers for some reason. Even though they're completely disconnected

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 73 points 1 week ago

This very much feels like they just needed to come up with a new justification for this process

It feels that way because that's exactly what happened.

[-] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I was hoping for at least something slightly believable, someone let Gemini write the justification I guess

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago

They don't even respect us enough to bother with trying to make their lies convincing anymore.

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[-] smeg@infosec.pub 87 points 1 week ago
  • enable developer options
  • confirm that you are not tricked
  • restart phone and re-authenticate
  • wait one day
  • confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
  • decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
  • confirm that you accept the risks
  • enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this
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[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 71 points 1 week ago

And again, confirming that my current phone will be the last android device I own.

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 25 points 1 week ago

What will you use instead though?

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 week ago

At this stage, I'm thinking one of the Motorola phones that will run Graphene out of the box.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago
[-] riptide@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

I believe it’s a fork of android that is not managed by Google

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago

It's an Android fork that has been degoogled

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago
[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something?

My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone.

[-] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP.

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[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

I use graphene on a pixel. Graphene is Android, albeit a much better version of Android.

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

I don't care whether it's technically android or not, I care that it's not a tool to let google in to my life.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Linux phone, landline, or tin can and string.

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Another option, an ESP32 radio. Surprisingly large mesh network in the greater Seattle area.

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[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 week ago

In addition to the advanced flow we’re building free, limited distribution accounts for students and hobbyists. This allows you to share apps with a small group (up to 20 devices) without needing to provide a government-issued ID or pay a registration fee.

Fuck you sideways, Google.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago
[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

They want developers to share their IDs to have their apps on the play store. The limited groups is so hobbyist developers can still share apps without having to jump through those hoops and so the users don't need to go and enable sideloading, with the caveat that there's a call on how many users you can send it to it looks like.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's already the case. The new thing is that they want developers to share their ID to have their apps be installable on Android in the first place, even if they don't use the Play Store.

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[-] kbal@fedia.io 50 points 1 week ago

Just think of all the other things that could benefit from a "protective waiting period" to enhance your safety.

Turning off location tracking, using a web browser other than Chrome, using a mail server other than Gmail, visiting duckduckgo.com — if Google really cared about your privacy and security they'd add a 24-hour delay to all these dangerous activities.

[-] zerofk@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Downloading Linux? Mandatory psych evaluation. For your protection.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago
[-] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 week ago

They think this will take some of the heat off of them. Hopefully no one actually thinks this is a reasonable compromise. If I want to help an elderly family member install something on their phone during Thanksgiving dinner or a family reunion, I'm not gonna want to wait a day. Uncle Paul's flying back to Florida tomorrow morning!

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[-] gary_d@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

I imagine that the demand for linux phones will only grow.

[-] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

THE PENGUINS MUST GROW

[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago

Who are these smooth-talking scammers that can guide a regular-ass user to jump through hoops in settings to install a malicious app?

Maybe I should ask them how they do it, because I cannot convince my family to download and use Signal. You know, the legit app from the official app store.

[-] goldman60@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

People who can't operate a computer will somehow become gods at following instructions if someone calls "from Microsoft"

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[-] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Who are these smooth-talking scammers that can guide a regular-ass user to jump through hoops in settings to install a malicious app?

you would be extremely surprised. I think lemmy users fail to realize that not everyone has an IT job and is a sys admin.

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[-] kalapala@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

Rental devices tend to be bad investments for the individuals.

[-] MountainMan@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

They will just redefine what 24h means!

Don't think for a second that these companies are working in good faith, and would change their evil plans due to some pushback from the rabble. They will just find ways to circumvent things. They have everyone by the nads, there are no competitors.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

This would not have affected me since I use Lineage OS without Google Play Services, but I am now more seriously than ever looking into using a Linux phone like Postmarket OS.

[-] fluxx@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

It would affect a lot of users, then it will indirectly affect you too, as a lot of devs won't be as interested in maintaining their apps for so few users. But I hope it will at least give a bit of a push to developing postmarket os. I personally am sure going to get a second hand phone to install postmarketos too and hope I can contribute at least a little bit. I am prepared to suffer, at least a little bit for the right cause.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hot Take: Honestly, this is not as bad as I thought it'd be... IMO

(But still, it's kinda a slipperly slope...)

[-] morto@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago

Their strategy:

  • announce they will make extreme restrictions
  • people get crazy over it and backlash
  • announce that they're listening to people and will soften the proposed restrictions
  • people relax and accept the restrictions, while the media portray them as the good guys
[-] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

I feel if everything they said is true, then this is a reasonable solution. But from my many Youtube scammer video experience, like people have already mentioned, most scammers use standard remote access software, not some bespoke APK.

[-] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm just going to eradicate Google once SteamOS supports mobile devices. Fucking control freak douchebags.

[-] MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Bruh what? You're gonna be waiting a long time for that. Better to use one of the pre-existing alternatives than wait for an OS that probably won't ever exist, and probably won't support your hardware if it ever does.

[-] heiligerbimbam@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 week ago

I am already on Graphene OS.. so, do what the fuck u want. I dont care.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Why is it called developer mode if it's supposedly an advanced flow? That has a bad implication.

[-] xSikes@feddit.online 6 points 1 week ago

spoiler
___either going back to cell phones or we all go for Linux phones

[-] achille225@jlai.lu 5 points 1 week ago

How will this be accepted by the EU?  Will it comply to the regulations? 

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because they technically still allow sideloading after 24 hours so I don't think it would violate EU laws

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