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Israel's Defence Minister Yaov Gallant has ordered the complete closure of the Gaza Strip, including a ban on the entry of food, water, fuel or access to electricity as Israel intensifies its bombardment of the besieged Strip in the wake of the surprise attack by the Palestinian resistance. His comments have drawn criticism for advocating collective punishment of Gaza's entire civilian Palestinian population in breach of international law.


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered an increase in intensity of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip.

Gallant said that the war Israel is fighting against Hamas is “a war for our future.”

He added: “Exacting a heavy price from the enemy is a necessary condition for our existence in the region.”

Gallant makes the comments during a visit to the Israeli Air Force’s underground command centre at the Israeli occupation forces headquarters in Tel Aviv.

link: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231009-israeli-minister-we-are-fighting-human-animals/

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[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 123 points 11 months ago

He’s dehumanizing the many over the acts of a few. He’s just trying to make it easier to justify the ramping up of their genocide.

[-] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

THIS! When those in power start dehumanizing others, you know there's killing coming. Hotel Rwanda is a great history lesson on this.

It feels like a great time for everyone to take a massive chill pill.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

He's also really blowing those "acts of a few" out of proportion, because even those acts are not a big concern, especially compared to the horrors Israel commits.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 53 points 11 months ago

Israel: we literally don't think people in Gaza are human

Westerners: I can't tell the difference between the two sides!

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's like the people responsible for terror on innocent people are animals, now. But how long were they treated like animals before they ever acted like them?

Yea, complicated it is.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not complicated. Stop doing ethnic cleansing on Palestinians. Up until that point, they deserve everything that happens to them.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 48 points 11 months ago

And the western leader support this war crime instead of stopping it.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Seeing as Americans Canadians and many other nationalities were killed in the attack by hamas. That was a foregone conclusion. It would have been unusual if these countries don't respond to support those attacked.

I cannot support hamas's attack. I can absolutely blame Israel for creating the conditions that brought it about. When the average age of someone in Gaza is 19. And there wasn't some sort of population boom 19 years ago. Something is seriously fucked up.

Two wrongs don't make a right. And I wish the United States was largely going to stay out of the cluster fuck Israel has created. But with Americans dead. As I said that was not going to happen.

[-] yaminoEXE@ttrpg.network 45 points 11 months ago

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israeli government support the genocide of the Palestinian people. Everyone else are just planning to profit from this.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 months ago

Every single liberation group was considered a terrorist organization. Fuck, even Antifa gets called that and they're not even an organization.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Hamas believe that Jews are literally the enemies of Allah and that it is a holy war to kill them.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

I'd be a little mad at them too if I were in their situation.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

That's literally how the Nazis thought about Jews. "There are too many in our country, they are taking away our jobs an money".

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How's that the same?? Just reread them both, slowly.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

God I hate feddit de so fucking much.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

I do agree that conservative Islam is partially to blame for the violence and terror but so is conservative Judaism. The conservative jews think it's their God given right to take the homes of the Palestinians and rule over them. Religion is fueling the fire on both sides.

[-] KevinDeRodeTovenaar@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago

What do you think about hamas killing innocent people, children?

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which children? Did Hamas target children like Israel does, or were they unfortunately caught in cross fire while they were fighting against their genociders?

[-] KevinDeRodeTovenaar@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They targeted any Israeli civilians, not just settlers, just anyone going door to door killing families.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Please show me evidence where Hamas targeted civilians minding their own business, and weren't just caught in crossfire. I doubt it.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

The massacre at a music festival early on would suggest Hamas isn't just a group of freedom fighters.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Hamas did not massacre a music festival or even target it. The idiots held a dance rave at the border of a concentration camp and a war zone, and they ended up caught in cross fire. Grab any half sane person on the street and they'll tell you this is a bad idea.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

Israel: we literally don't consider the people of Gaza to be humans

You: sheesh, I really I can't tell the difference between these two!

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

*Israel Minister.

And Hamas also thinks jews are no humans, so yes, there is no difference.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Israel Minister

So... A representative of the Israeli state? The state founded on Zionism? That's not a correction. That is Israel.

Hamas also thinks jews are no humans

Source? Hamas has a history with anti Semitic conspiracy theories and generalizations, but not to the extent of saying Jews aren't human.

Not to mention, even said anti semitism was dropped long ago, when Hamas underwent a radical shift in membership when Israel killed off other PLO groups.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

What definition of "terrorist organization" are we using here?

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Any of the popular definitions. If they're simply organizations against the government, they're terrorists as Israel basically claims Palestinian land is their own. If they're organizations that use terror, brutality, and fear against citizens to achieve political ends, they're definitely terrorists, and so are the IDF.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

There are non-combatants in this conflict that are bad people. They cheer on the extermination of others. Sometimes that's Hamas or the PLO (they run a fund that gives stipends to families of terrorists). Other times it's certain Israeli Jews who encourage conflict while not risking their own necks because they can claim a religious exemption from military service. They seek an Israel without Palestinian territories, or for that matter Palestinians at all (aka ethnic cleansing).

I'm not saying that non-combatants should be targeted. At the same time, I am saying that just being a civilian does not mean someone lacks blame.

[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago

Strange, terrorist organization don't seem to pop up in countries with better human rights.

[-] Bread@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

They can pop up anywhere. Terrorism occurs when extremists of any type had enough of whatever they are upset about and it pushes them over the edge. Whether it is reasonable or not. Regular people can also be pushed to do terrible things with just the right amount of propaganda and other emotional manipulation. Some people just enjoy it.

Believing it cannot happen to you too with enough pressure and lies is wrong.

[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You have a good point I was a bit too black and white with my comment. There definitely seems to be a correlation between size and violence of terrorist groups, and the human rights of the area they riside in.

Also totally agree that it can happen to me. Gotta acknowledge that you don't really know anything and you are pretty much always just taking someone's word for things. I believe the Earth is round, but I'm just taking people's word for it.

[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

In the Western country that I'm in the propaganda has been flying thick and fast all day today on every single media outlet there is about this. You can tell they're trying to justify a lot of bad things that are about to happen and have already begun.

[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

This shitbag is a right wing fascist who would make Hitler blush with pride.

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 10 points 11 months ago

Antiwar website has a biased antiwar stance.


“We have been warning time and time again… everything is going to erupt and everybody is going to pay a price – mainly innocent civilians on both sides. And unfortunately, that is exactly what happened,” he added.

Gaza has also been under an Israeli-imposed land, sea, and air blockade since 2007, and Israel frequently bombs the besieged enclave. The last major bombing campaign took place in 2021, when over 250 Palestinians were killed.

“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians – and unfortunately now Israelis as well,” Cassif said.


Israeli Lawmaker Says ‘Pogroms’ Against Palestinians Provoked Hamas Assault

https://news.antiwar.com/2023/10/09/israel-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-says-theyre-fighting-human-animals/>

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

So two different Israeli politicians are saying two different things. Great. Which one is their Minister of Defence?

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 months ago

And you're a fuckface for dehumanizing people.

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