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Israel's Defence Minister Yaov Gallant has ordered the complete closure of the Gaza Strip, including a ban on the entry of food, water, fuel or access to electricity as Israel intensifies its bombardment of the besieged Strip in the wake of the surprise attack by the Palestinian resistance. His comments have drawn criticism for advocating collective punishment of Gaza's entire civilian Palestinian population in breach of international law.


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered an increase in intensity of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip.

Gallant said that the war Israel is fighting against Hamas is “a war for our future.”

He added: “Exacting a heavy price from the enemy is a necessary condition for our existence in the region.”

Gallant makes the comments during a visit to the Israeli Air Force’s underground command centre at the Israeli occupation forces headquarters in Tel Aviv.

link: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231009-israeli-minister-we-are-fighting-human-animals/

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[-] yaminoEXE@ttrpg.network 45 points 2 years ago

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israeli government support the genocide of the Palestinian people. Everyone else are just planning to profit from this.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago

Every single liberation group was considered a terrorist organization. Fuck, even Antifa gets called that and they're not even an organization.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

Hamas believe that Jews are literally the enemies of Allah and that it is a holy war to kill them.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I'd be a little mad at them too if I were in their situation.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

That's literally how the Nazis thought about Jews. "There are too many in our country, they are taking away our jobs an money".

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How's that the same?? Just reread them both, slowly.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

God I hate feddit de so fucking much.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I do agree that conservative Islam is partially to blame for the violence and terror but so is conservative Judaism. The conservative jews think it's their God given right to take the homes of the Palestinians and rule over them. Religion is fueling the fire on both sides.

[-] KevinDeRodeTovenaar@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

What do you think about hamas killing innocent people, children?

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Which children? Did Hamas target children like Israel does, or were they unfortunately caught in cross fire while they were fighting against their genociders?

[-] KevinDeRodeTovenaar@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They targeted any Israeli civilians, not just settlers, just anyone going door to door killing families.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Please show me evidence where Hamas targeted civilians minding their own business, and weren't just caught in crossfire. I doubt it.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

The massacre at a music festival early on would suggest Hamas isn't just a group of freedom fighters.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Hamas did not massacre a music festival or even target it. The idiots held a dance rave at the border of a concentration camp and a war zone, and they ended up caught in cross fire. Grab any half sane person on the street and they'll tell you this is a bad idea.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Israel: we literally don't consider the people of Gaza to be humans

You: sheesh, I really I can't tell the difference between these two!

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

*Israel Minister.

And Hamas also thinks jews are no humans, so yes, there is no difference.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Israel Minister

So... A representative of the Israeli state? The state founded on Zionism? That's not a correction. That is Israel.

Hamas also thinks jews are no humans

Source? Hamas has a history with anti Semitic conspiracy theories and generalizations, but not to the extent of saying Jews aren't human.

Not to mention, even said anti semitism was dropped long ago, when Hamas underwent a radical shift in membership when Israel killed off other PLO groups.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

What definition of "terrorist organization" are we using here?

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Any of the popular definitions. If they're simply organizations against the government, they're terrorists as Israel basically claims Palestinian land is their own. If they're organizations that use terror, brutality, and fear against citizens to achieve political ends, they're definitely terrorists, and so are the IDF.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

There are non-combatants in this conflict that are bad people. They cheer on the extermination of others. Sometimes that's Hamas or the PLO (they run a fund that gives stipends to families of terrorists). Other times it's certain Israeli Jews who encourage conflict while not risking their own necks because they can claim a religious exemption from military service. They seek an Israel without Palestinian territories, or for that matter Palestinians at all (aka ethnic cleansing).

I'm not saying that non-combatants should be targeted. At the same time, I am saying that just being a civilian does not mean someone lacks blame.

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