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submitted 11 months ago by nodimetotie@lemmy.world to c/germany@feddit.de

Sausages are a staple of German street food, and yet most places serve sausages in a round "semmel" bun. But the sausages are long (duh) so they just beg for a longer bun. Why do you think hot-dog-style buns aren't more popular?

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[-] taladar@feddit.de 43 points 11 months ago

As a German I think of American hot dogs as disgusting sausage wrapped in disgusting bread.

[-] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Right, but here is a real opportunity to make it into something great. Also, not all American hot dogs are terrible, you just need to know a good place ;)

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I think the overall sentiment is not so much why doesn’t Germany do American style bread buns, but moreso why isn’t there a bun of any style of bread in the mix in certain situations. Maybe not for a restaurant setting but wursts in quick eat situations like fairs and food trucks/stands…seems like it would make sense. Some have em but its pretty rare.

[-] taladar@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

My theory is that you just don't need them. You only need enough to keep something between your fingers and the hot wurst.

[-] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 39 points 11 months ago

Wurst is traditionally not really a street food. Bratwurst is to be eaten on a plate with knife and fork acompanied by potatoes and veggies of some description. Preserved Wurst like smoked Mettwurst is dry and can be eaten without holding it in any kind of bun. Boiled wurst like Bockwurst or Wiener WĂĽrstchen are cooked in a soup or stew.

So traditionally there was no need to have a fitting bun for the Wurst. Bratwurst in a bun is a relatively new thing (post war I'd guess) and germans just made it work with the buns that were available anyway. People got used to that, so nobody saw a need for any different kind of bun.

That's my personal take, so take it with a grain of salt.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

What do you mean by traditionally?

For the last 50 years you can get Bratwurst or Polish sausage in a „Brötchen“ to go at pretty much every foodtruck.

And same goes for Currywurst with fries. This is an German classic Bratwurst-to-go dish.

[-] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

German Wurst-Tradition does not start 50 years ago. More like 500.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Your take on Wurst has no relevance for OP if by traditionally you mean 500 years ago. Who cares about 500 years ago? He wants to talk about recent events and you are here giving him a history lesson. 500 years ago NO MEAT was street food because most people were too poor to eat meat regularly. Of course you would treat eating meat like a special event.

[-] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

You merely adopted the Wurst. I was born in a Metzgerei, moulded by it...

[-] AAA@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Bratwurst is to be eaten on a plate with a knife and fork? You're free to do whatever you want, but as a Thuringian I beg to differ.

Bratwurst in a half cut bun, or gtfo.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

Ich nehme lieber den GewĂĽrzketchup.

[-] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

Ich bin ein Freund des Löwensenfs. Extra scharf.

[-] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That makes sense

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

So Wusrt on a stick would be more historically accurate?

[-] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

First: It's Wurst not what you wrote.

Second: To my knowledge there is no traditional "Wurst on a stick" here in Germany.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Sorry, on mobile. Wurst, right?

My point is that adding a bun is less historically accurate than not. So Wurst on a stick would be closer to Wurst on a plate than Wurst in a bun.

[-] losttourist@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Neither sausage-on-a-stick fast food nor sausage-in-a-bun fast food bear any resemblance to the traditional German way of serving wurst. Neither is "closer" they are both a million miles away from the original.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because hot dog buns taste like shit. Sugary like cake and a consistency of marshmallows. Germans like real bread.

[-] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 19 points 11 months ago

If the buns were longer, you couldn't eat the delicious pure sausage first. Best technique is to extract the sausage bit by bit by drawing it with your teeth out of the bun. As dessert you'll get a sausage-and-mustard flavoured bun.

That's not possible with hot dogs, as neither the sausage nor the bun taste on their own. I'd even doubt they taste at all...

[-] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

So that's how you supposed to eat it...

[-] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

It's just one of my favourite ways of eating it.

The only real requirement for correct Bratwurst im Brötchen eating is to fight everyone tooth and nail who dares to doubt that your local Bratwurst variety is objectively the best of all.

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[-] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Was zum fick bin ich lesend? Du isst Wurst und Semmel getrennt?!?!?!

[-] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Viele Wege weisen zum wahren Wurstgenuss, wähle weise dem Anlass angemessen.

[-] Matombo@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago

The solution are Nürnberger Bratwürste. They are just as long as a Kaiserbrötchen and you get 3 at a time which fits perfect in the other dimension too.

[-] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Great, haven't tried those. Are they different from regular Bratwurst?

[-] Matombo@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They are the best BratwĂĽrste in whole germany ofc. (I'm totaly unbiased cough)

[-] GenEcon@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

Because we have Brötchen. Its a staple in german cuisine and goes great with any kind of sausaga.

[-] schnokobaer@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago

Because they are fucking disgusting

[-] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Just my observation bit most Germans eat with knife and fork. Also, wouldn't work with Currywurst (think of a cut up sausage in enough curry sauce to drown a good size...we'll...it's too much sauce. Cheeseburgers...I've only seen them eat with knife and fork. But that's just my observations (limited as they are)

[-] frenchyy94@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry, who the fuck eats a burger with cutlery? Except maybe some tiny amount of people in Restaurants (not Burger places)

[-] 14372707@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago

I do! And when I get funny looks about it I tell them "Jeder, wie er kann".

Honestly, I just don't like my hands dirty

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

When the burger is too high to handle (most modern places that aren't street food joints) you have no other choice.

[-] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I'm telling you who: Germans. Also, there must be placemats under plates.

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[-] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago

Do you mean the shape of the bun or the kind of bread? Kind of bread: because American bread sucks. Especially hot dog or burger buns.

The shape is a more interesting question, I feel.

It seems to me that you are talking mainly about southern Germany, because they call the buns 'Semmel'. In the north it’s more commonly called 'Brötchen', which are more elongated than the round Semmeln. Other regional names and variants exist, too. A Brötchen isn’t totally Form fitting like a hot dog bun is, either. My guess is that the bun exists more as a vehicle for the sausage as opposed to a real part of dish, like in a hot dog. Some people just eat a Bratwurst mit Senf with just a small piece of toast to hold it, some of them even discard the bread. Its all about the Wurst, baby. So why are the buns tasty themselves? Might be traditional German quality standards. Back when they still existed.

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[-] wldmr@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

FWIW, my first hot dog (described to me by my father as „ein heißer Hund“) was served to me in a long breadroll, made out of European-style white bread (the non-foamy kind). The breadroll was hollowed out and open on one side, so the sausage could be slipped in, along with a helping of (Gewürz?)ketchup. Loved that shit! A bit a googling seems to suggest that these are called “French Hot Dogs”.

Years later I was very confused when I came upon traditional “American” hot dogs.

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[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

There are some valid points in here already, but I'd also like to add that many places offer a wider variety than just a single type of sausage (different sizes, Leberkäse, meatballs...). Instead of having buns for each you just get a normal one. Sometimes you even get sausages and the bun seperately on a small cardboard tray so you can dip them in e.g. mustard.

[-] zaphod@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

If you want a hot dog get a hot dog.

[-] RedPandaRaider@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

I've been wondering that myself. I don't think I've ever seen any hotdogs sold as street food in Germany. Yet at least on major cities in neighbouring countries it is a thing. Seen it first hand several times in the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden.

[-] anzich@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

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