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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

These must be the defensive bombs they keep talking about.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 146 points 3 days ago

The US government can not be trusted. The UK government can not be trusted. The Iranian government can not be trusted. The Israeli government can not be trusted.

I think I am starting to see a pattern.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago

Countries whose names start with vowels can't be trusted?

[-] catbum@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Austrians right about now

hehe

Heck, Australians too

And maybe the aliens ^idk^

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Given they banned Palestine action/slogans (18-year old girl jailed for 2 years for wearing a shirt saying "from the river to the sea").

[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Yeah, our government's tonguing the Netanyahu-owned Orange Anus, too.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Is there any government that can be trusted? I feel like no matter what system or ideology is used, a society is always going to end up with a weird ruling class that's corrupt, power hungry, and is fond of using authoritarian tactics.

[-] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Mother anarchy loves her children

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[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago

I thought the UK wasn’t going to be complicit in this illegal US/Israeli mass murder campaign?? I thought they denied access to their bases for this. Guess not.

[-] Bieren@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

The planes are just transporting the bombs. The uk is fine with that. If they accidentally fall on a school in Iran it’s not their fault.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Crickey!! 😮😮😮LOL so they are complicit AF.

[-] mousefad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

Those must be them defensive bombs that only fall on people who are attacking you.

[-] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago

What a surprise.... No one could have seen this coming.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

I may be naive, but I honestly didn't think UK would allow this, when Starmer clearly stated the war on Iran is illegal. Especially not after USA has been caught in several war crimes.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 3 days ago

Didn't he literally say he'd allow their use for "defensive" strikes? He's never really been hiding it.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

How is a bunker buster on a bomber defensive?
Defensive is to scramble planes to shoot down missiles. An attack is not defensive in my book.

Edit: A word.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 3 days ago

Yeah but that's because you're using logic, reasoning, and commonly understood meanings of words. In Kid Starver's authoritarian mind none of those things matter.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth's centre.

  • 1984, George Orwell
[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Absolutely, the idea that "preemptive" strikes are defensive is Orwellian.
Also how does UK know what target they will hit? Will it be a kindergarten killing innocent children? Will it be a refinery constituting chemical warfare on civilians? There is no plausible reason to believe these strikes are purely defensive.

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[-] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

IMO defensive would involve them not leaving the USA.

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[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Every strike is a defensive strike

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[-] architect@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yall are naive as shit. The fucking pedophiles are against their buddy pedophiles they’ve been fucking kids with? Do you really believe that shit?

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I feel like we're slowly discovering that the UK is still in fact run by Tony Blair.

[-] Shameless@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Starmer the flim flam man. He stands for nothing and will go with anything, he has no morals.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Goddam UK, didn't Starmer say he WOULDN'T allow this?
This is participation in war crimes!

[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

All the little pedos gotta stick to the script

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 22 points 3 days ago

It would be more out of character for Starmer to keep his word.

[-] Womble@piefed.world 6 points 2 days ago

No, after Iran started targeting the gulf states and Cypress the UK shifted its position to allowing the US to use the UK's bases for missions targeting Iran's long range strike capabilities but not anything else. This video is consistent with that.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

It's funny how Ukraine has done that against Russia without ever using bomber planes and without even having bunker buster bombs.
So I maintain that it remains a no. USA does not need bombers to defend itself. In fact all it needed to not even have to defend itself, was to not wage an illegal war on Iran.
USA and Israel should not be aided in their illegal war in any way IMO.

[-] Womble@piefed.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I agree, for the most part, the UK should have as little to do with this as possible. Though there is the consideration of protecting the Gulf states we have a commitment to.

But my point is that this isnt going against the stated UK government position as lots of people (including you) are saying in this thread.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes it does, because an attack with a bomber plane dropping a bunker buster bomb, is not defense, when USA and Israel started it. What Iran is doing on the other hand, is defense, because they were the ones that were attacked.

You can't hit someone in the face, and then if they hit back you hit again. And then call it defending yourself.
It's abuse of terminology to mislead and manipulate.
The attacker does not suddenly became the defending party when they keep attacking.

Next you will claim that if USA drop a tactical nuke, that that is defense too?

I'm sorry I had to downvote you, because although what you write may be the official take, it is outrageous.

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 3 days ago

So UK bases are just a valid military targets now lol

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[-] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 15 points 2 days ago

Imagine if all US miitary assets were targeted, globally

[-] GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago
[-] berg@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

Dozens of countries host US military bases. While currently unlikely, the individual host nations could absolutely forcefully overtake or otherwise expel the bases within their borders while the US flounders about in Iran.

The US has just shown it can't protect it's bases, and their presence only invites more conflict.

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[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I don't understand the downvotes, you are absolutely correct. No one nation would be capable of targeting every US military base in other countries.

[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

It's not about targeting the whole thing it's about targeting links in the chain. If you took down 1-2 links in the chain the frontlines are impacted.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Iran is literally bombing US military bases. Like, right now.

I get you think America is the greatest country in the world, but your people are literally being bombed as we speak.

[-] FE80@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Poking around an ADSB tracking site will very quickly illustrate the flight path of the logistics chain to the middle east, as well as the European bases passed through along the way.

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[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Fun fact, that’s a 1980s era bomber being loaded and is still flying just fine. We haven’t even started with the robot dogs yet so the WW is gonna get waaay worse before..whatever is next

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago

So they're just loading the bombers right by the fence where journalists can see? Probably an order from Trump to stir up things up because the UK said they couldn't launch attacks from the UK.

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Another Starmer lie?

Fascists helping fascists.  The new Axis of evil. 

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Operation: grab em by the pussy is a go!

🫲🍊🫱

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Herr Schtarmer

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