210
Europe wins by doing nothing
China and Russia win even more by staying silent and letting Trump disband the old world order that hugely favored the US and Europe. All they have to do is watch, it’s astonishing how incredibly stupid the US is acting on the world stage.
Does it though? The Euro is the second strongest currency in the world and Europe has a strong banking system. There is very much a chance it takes over the role of the USD. Also Europe is much richer on a per capita bases then Russia or China and much more open to migration. It is for example impossible for most everybody to become a Chinese citizen. So there is a strong chance that Europe starts brain draining the rest of the world even more. This is actually an example of that in a way. This might well end up especially bad for Russia, if they loose the war against Ukraine. That most certainly will end up crashing the economy and lead to mass emigration. That somewhat already started.
The EU does not have a strong enough central government to take this role. Not as long as any country the union can veto any action they want. They can't even give aid to Ukraine despite like 90% of the EU agreeing to do so.
It's taken them thirty years of work to even get the ability to do electronic credit transactions and they MIGHT get it done in the next couple years.
For most issues the EU uses qualified majority, which does not allow vetos. The main excpetions are taxation and foreign policy.
So, you know, the two most critical elements to becoming a global financial and economic hub.
And yet, the Eu has given the largest aud of all to Ukraine so far. Hungary makes a fuss and things complicated but the EU can always fudge around it, it just causes a slight delay.
Yeah, majority rule would be democratic, veto is not.
*lose
is for example impossible for most everybody to become a Chinese citizen.
Whereas fortress Europe welcomes basically anybody?
There are only about 10,000 permanent residents in China. Compared to say Germany, where that figure is at 2.6million.
So compared to China, Europe is basically welcoming everybody.
As long as Europe remains the democratic center of the world, the world order will favour them.
Ever been the only nice guy - surrounded by bullies - on a schoolyard?
If you bully Germanball or EUball enough, you'll get Reichtangle though.
Yeah, bad neighbours do make us build tall fences. Europe is going to need some very tall fences to keep Russia and China out.
I mean, we try to keep our shit in order and our governments democratic, idk if that's nothing
Does "not being shitty" count as active doing?
According to the valve meme, no. If you're not shitty, just don't do anything
Absolutely.
I joined a boycott for an international conference that is planned for San Francisco at the end of October. The organizer started the movement in January, knowing what was to come. Things have only gotten worse since then... the organizers are determined to see it through.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Europe is also an unwise choice. As is Canada and the UK. Some of my recent threads on this:
- The spread of travel authorisations (🇺🇸→🇬🇧→🇪🇺) has scrapped our visa-free travel rights. Also resulting in privacy loss and suppression of speech
- What if Europeans want to petition Europe to negotiate for visa-free travel to the UK and Canada? Do petitions ever attempt to change the policy of 3rd countries?
- UK imposes ETAs on EU citizens too, now. (the money grab: £16/2yrs)
- Travel authorisation (ETA) scams -- both legal and illegal scams target Americans, and Europeans
It should be a place that has ETA-free travel, not just visa-free, if they want global attendees.
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2026
210 points (100.0% liked)
Europe
10633 readers
401 users here now
News and information from Europe 🇪🇺
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in other communities.
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
- Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.
(This list may get expanded as necessary.)
Posts that link to the following sources will be removed
- on any topic: Al Mayadeen, brusselssignal:eu, citjourno:com, europesays:com, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Fox, GB News, geo-trends:eu, news-pravda:com, OAN, RT, sociable:co, any AI slop sites (when in doubt please look for a credible imprint/about page), change:org (for privacy reasons), archive:is,ph,today (their JS DDoS websites)
- on Middle-East topics: Al Jazeera
- on Hungary: Euronews
Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media (incl. Substack). Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com
(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)
Ban lengths, etc.
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the primary mod account @EuroMod@feddit.org
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS