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In the circle of piracy (media.piefed.social)

submitted 5 hours ago by Ryoae@piefed.social to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 hours ago

Oh no, the youngins are on their "if no one talks about it, the corpos won't know" delusion again.

Security through obscurity isn't security, and plenty of sites have survived longer than most of you have been pirating despite coverage by actual news organizations. Your least (or most) favorite youtuber (or forum, or guide, or wiki) isn't moving the needle.

If you aren't part of the actual scene that's sourcing shit for day 0 (or earlier) upload you have nothing to worry about regarding open discussion through psuedonymous social media. Or people making youtube videos. Or guides etc.

Pirate sites and fan projects that get shut down weren't going to last anyway. Real ones arr either set up to last or find a way to continue. Like Pirate Bay and AM2R.

[-] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago

Real ones arr

Nice

[-] Ryoae@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

There's some irony in that you still think the Pirate Bay has some use in today's way of pirating. Okay, grandpa, you're out of nursing home curfew.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I never said that and you're wildly missing my point. If the person running your site hasn't run things in a way that they can tank some news coverage, it was doomed from the start.

Take this very lemmy instance. The public facing load balancer they currently use is hosted in France. They aren't revealing anything beyond that and anythung further isn't something that can be reasonably found by anyone not involved with the systems administration side of things for the instance. The admins are careful to practice proper opsec as well, not revealing their home country.

You can find all sorts of writeups about countless less than legal sites and projects, both ones that survived and ones that died. Not a single dead one is dead because of attention. Most are dead because the people running it made some mistake that allowed authorities to find their real identity so they could be prosecuted. Or because of internal drama. Or rising costs, like myrient which is closing the end of this month.

[-] SnotFlickerman 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The last time I even remember private trackers being taken down was in the days of Oink.UK and What.CD.

Oink was shut down in 2007 and What was shut down in 2016, both mostly because they had grown so big they were hard to ignore. A lot of modern sites keep an upper limit on the accounts they allow to prevent too much growth and attracting attention.

Hell, I remember baconBits having an upper limit of less than 10,000 accounts. Once that limit was reached, you couldn't even send out invites.

Also, public trackers that were huge like RARBG survived until finances shut them down, via COVID and the war in Ukraine, they were never taken down forcibly, and they were massive and widely used.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

Maybe it should be named something you can't say on youtube

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Where would someone avoid to not see F1 race streams live?

[-] makeitwonderful@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Click it, save it, seed it, share it, link it, stream it, we don’t pay

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 24 points 4 hours ago

Me, still using Pirate Bay since before most of the people in this sub were born.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 hours ago

My country plays wack a mole with their domains. I mostly rely on 2 private trackers now

[-] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 7 points 4 hours ago

If you're not using a VPN to visit PB.org from a non- problematic country, are you even trying?

[-] ivn@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 3 hours ago

Wouldn't this be solved by using a DNS server your country as no control over?

But anyway PirateBay is not recommended anymore.

[-] Haquer@lemmy.today 1 points 47 minutes ago

Depends on how the country is doing it. If they are just flat out dropping traffic to the routes, changing DNS won't save you.

[-] SnotFlickerman 31 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

*laughs in private tracker

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 hours ago

Yeah but I don't want to have to deal with community drama, upload requirements, minimum seed ratios that you can't hit because you aren't downloading popular enough torrents, applying to get in like it's some fucking C-level job application... Some of us pirate because we want content, not because it's a lifestyle.

[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

minimum seed ratios that you can't hit because you aren't downloading popular enough torrents

Autobrr is the cheat code for this. Set it and forget it, come back in a month and you have 5 terabytes of buffer

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The private trackers I'm on also give "credits" for seeding time in addition to seed ratio, so even if not a lot of people are grabbing data from me, I can still download more by keeping my files always seeding.

Now, I'm not in any "big" or "classic" tracker, so maybe this is only a thing on the Smaller/Newer PTs, that being said they have everything I want so 🤷

[-] SnotFlickerman 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Just fuckin with ya. Those are all valid gripes. I guess I got in on the scene way early through invites from friends and so I've hardly ever had to go through any interview process. I think the only place I "interviewed" was baconbits and it wasn't really an interview since I mostly just shared evidence of good ratio on other trackers with long-lived accounts. I've had an account in good standing on Cinemageddon for... 18 years as of next month. Getting over that initial hump made it pretty easy to get in with good standing, and most decent trackers aren't that hard to get good ratio on.