So meta gets to claim fair use with pure digital duplication, but archive.org doesn't when they scan physical copies of books and only lend out the same number of copies as they own in warehouses. That's piracy.

Got it.

1. Shorter and more reasonable copyright lengths would make this a moot point because then there would sufficient literature in the public domain to pull from.

2. These kind of charges are what put the Pirate Bay admins in prison and caused Aaron Swartz to kill himself because of a threat of lifetime in prison. The claim that they did this either with the goal of profit or actually successful profit and that this was a serious crime. Neither TPB or Swartz at that point in time had ever moved as much data as Meta has for these claims, nor did they ever have the profit or possibility of profit Meta aims to make from their AI offerings.

3. Now Meta is claiming they've profited so hard you can't possibly hold them accountable.

It will be the biggest "fuck you" in history to anyone ever hit with civil charges for piracy in the early 2000s, let alone the TPB admins and Swartz, if they let this go. Which means they probably will because in America, apparently if you crime hard enough and big enough they stop putting you in prison and start patting you on the back and calling it good business sense.

Copyrights over 5-10 years or not held by the creator are stealing from the commons/public domain and there is no moral obligation to follow those laws, and some would say a moral responsibility to share pirated copies of those works to everyone, not just corpo slop machines. Also good luck proving leading AI is a good thing and not destroying education and critical thinking skills.

Classic "the end justifies the means" (bad) defense. If ISPs can send letter for torrenting, and Facebook torrented a lot, Facebook deserves a fair punishment.

So we subsidize these baby killing bastards and they pull the broke boy card. The united state is a brutal imperialist capitalist shithole ...pffft fuck capitalism

So we can pirate books as well as long as we aren't able to reproduce them verbatim from memory as well?

Judge Vince Chhabria either accepts whatever bribes and offers he's probably getting offered and sides with Meta, or it will eventually go on to the Supreme Court where they most definitely will. That's the part of this that will work the most under an administration of no accountability.

Honestly I agree with Meta here but this should apply to everyone. I think most people here conflate their hate for Meta with the factual reality of intellectual property.

Looking forward to Jellyfin getting a LLM to train locally on movie preferences so everyone’s library is fair use. Wait, is this why LLMs are being shoehorned into everything? 🤔

Yup, that's what I'm doing with all those audiobooks I torrented. Helping the US maintain the lead in AI 😂

It's OK when corporations do it.

Is it fair use if I do it?

sure. thanks meta, anna's archive will help me with my reading list, thanks.

"See your honour, I'm just training my AI with all these books, comics, movies, music, general software and games. Totally permissible. Go fine Lars retroactively for keeping interfering with our training".

So Anna's Archive is legal now?

By this logic i should be able to copy paste Moby Dick and change all instances of the name to Mopy Dick and now it's output no longer matches the imput. I'm about to be the next Stefani King.

I saw this coming from 69 miles away

I'm getting the feeling that the average Lemming is a pro-piracy advocate only for as long as it's them financially benefiting from it but the script interestingly flips when a company they don't like does the same thing.

If money wasn't an issue, there's be no reason to pirate anything. It's a financial decision. There's no practical difference between earning fifty bucks and saving that much - in both cases you're left with 50 more bucks to spend.