DNC: Newsom/Harris 2028 take it or leave it
DNC 2032: Why can't we win elections?
God. Dammit.
No more fucking neolibs. No Newsom, no Kamala, no Hillary, no Shapiro — fuck the lot of them. We must do everything in power to stop any and every neoliberal traitor from being nominated in 2028.
I'm so tired of "elites" ruling society. Neolibs in particular have a horrible habit of preserving corrupt power systems and undermining people rights. For example, the democratic establishment is actively trying to expand the surveillance state, while we're at risk of a permanent authoritarian take over. Like, Wtf?
Honestly, I'm hoping some state creates a random-citizen option ballot. It'd be hilarious to get some random guy in congress who just rants about the rampant corruption. Plus, that type of systemic reform merges congress with a "people's assembly" which are supposedly super resistant to corruption.
But...But...Blue no matter who! Do you want Trump to be elected again! It's your fault Trump won! ((Insert all other interrupting, conversation ending phrases neo-libs use here))
And if she runs again and becomes the candidate, she'll lose again.
Kamala, dear, you're nearly as milquetoast as Biden. You're female, black, younger Biden. Nobody wanted Biden.
bad kamala. thats true, americans please keep voting for trump! he's your savior.
She’s already showing us she isn’t listening to us.
it looks like she cares more about the presidency than representing Americans
Absolutely. Unfortunately this seems to be quite common with those that aim to run.
If Americans were actually represented by our government, things would be vastly different here and around the world.
I'd love for her to run again and take votes away from Gavin Newsom in the primary so an actual working class candidate can win the nomination.
Her only merit was that she’s not Trump. It’s a very good merit, but let’s hope for some stronger candidate next time, if there ever will be a next time.
Being "not Trump" literally only worked cause of Covid. If that didn't happen, I can almost guarantee he would have won 2020. As annoying as it is, the people that would vote for a Dem candidate need to be convinced to do so and no amount of calling them lazy or accusing them of being terrible people will change that. Blue no matter who won't work.
Her only merit was that she’s not Trump
Correct.
It’s a very good merit
Not anywhere near as good as it sounds, given how difficult it is for millions of eligible voters to actually vote.
No matter how evil the alternative is, you have to give people something to vote FOR in order to convince them to risk their livelihood while waiting in line in November weather for sometimes half a dozen or more hours, quite likely with children in tow or while paying for unaffordable childcare.
The DNC won't hear of it, though. They're a for-profit corporation that exists to maximize legal (and sometimes illegal) bribes coming their way, regardless of electoral outcomes.
let’s hope for some stronger candidate next time, if there ever will be a next time.

Ultimately americans need to turn over 3/4 of their sitting politicians by 2028 or else the power structure will remain unchanged.
She may not be trump in name or appearance but she's a cog in the same machine
Better sit at home and be a victim then.
Both parties have been for a long time.
DNC will fail to read the room on 2028. Lesser evil is over, time to earn votes
Might as well vote for the greatest evil. At least they actually stand for something.
Mostly himself and things related to himself, but yes, he does.
Mostly himself while regularly harming his supporters, 30+% of whom will continue hanging on his every word
Yeah, I don't think Harris is the candidate, but who is? I'm skeptical that democratic voters can reach a consensus on a candidate. I'm sure establishment/moderate Democrats can come to a consensus on their candidate, and progressives can come to a consensus on their candidate, but there's only one party nomination. Will the progressives vote for the candidate the moderates come up with? Will the moderates vote for the candidate the progressives come up with?
Well said.
Also: will the progressives vote for the candidate progressives come up with? Because there is always the chance that when it boils down to an actual individual, they may not pass some purity test(s) that are typically run against politicians.
they may not pass some purity test(s)
Most of those purity tests are in fact rightwing voter-suppression psyops.
If she wants to win, she needs to be out there today pushing back against the regime. Instead, there's crickets. That's a "No" vote from me.
I hope she does run again, because this time she’ll have to face a contested primary. I can’t wait to laugh my ass off when Kamala garners less than 3% of the primary votes. Hope the dumbass DNC wastes several hundred million on her before that happens too, serves them right to back corpo trash like Harris. Not like they’ll ever learn the right lessons from any of this anyway.
So your choice is between a "corpo trash like Harris" and a fascist pedophile like Trump? You guys are fucked.
If the establishment power structure has its way, yes. We require significant reforms to allow the people to have a voice in this alleged “democracy.”
Not like they’ll ever learn the right lessons from any of this anyway.
Their paychecks depend on it.
every second you spend berating the democrats, the right grows stronger. pick your battles friendo. I'm sure your contempt feels good but it's not flipping anyone's vote for midterms. focus on what's important, please.
And what is important? The DNC pushing nationally unelectable, unpopular candidates down the throat of the electorate during primaries, so they can lose the general election to the republican candidate like Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Kamala Harris in 2024?
I mean, if she manages to win a contested primary, she'll be a better candidate.
If nothing else, maybe she and Gavin will split the Goober vote and let some fresh blood in
I bet the super delegates push both of them until it's just those two. Then they will have a battle of the corporate shill old guards.
You had your shot and chose the establishment. Fuck off into the same hole Biden is in.
Already working for Trump, Putin, and AIPAC I see.
/u/return2ozma consistently called for no one to vote for Harris, or Biden, during 2024, actively helping Trump to win by sowing defeatist propaganda. They are a Nazi supporter, adjacently.
They don't care who the DNC runs, they will campaign against them, because no one that makes it through the primary will ever be "pure" enough for this troll.
Edit: your down vote just helps to prove my point. You are an anti-democracy troll.
If they run her again, they deserve to lose.
Agreed, but I don't trust this particular user to be trying to shove that down our throats again.
I think Kamala would be a okay President (as in, "not a fucking idiot" ), however she's still a corporate pawn, Israeli shill and centre right like most other Dems who's main selling point is "not Trump". There are few good options within the whole party who actually support social agendas and not whatever a company's lobbyists or Zionists are paying them to support.
But more crucially, she's a woman, and not white and for 50% of the voting population (i.e. the ones who actually get off the couch to go vote), their racism and misogyny is more than enough reason to not vote for her - in fact, they'd relish in not doing so as it supports their fundamental principles of being a cunt.
Nope, give us someone better
Somebody we can believe in.
Sadly, the voting idiots of he United States would just elect Donald Trump again if K.H. ran again... even if it meant digging up his dead body...because let's stop lying. It wasn't about het being "chosen" without a primary. She lisy because she was a woman and she was black. Americans will not elect s female president, probably within the next 50 years. Misogyny is alive and well, burning brightly right beside racism, in America. I say that as a white man who had seen and heard every excuse and every lie. Americans are stupid. That's the bottom line. They are ignorant and uneducated, and don't want to be educated. They enjoy their ignorance and their racism and misogyny. They will not change until the Boomers and Gen X (I'm Gen X) are dead and buried because those two generations are a millstone around the neck of this nation. Sadly, we're bringing up an apathetic pair of generations in the form of Gen Z and Gen Alpha who just don't care about anything beyond their pet causes and social media accounts. In the last 30 years, Americans have thrown our once great nation to its knees and they're guilty of raping lady liberty as surely as the Epstein rapists and murderers are guilty of the crimes they committed. I worry that ghhd country I grew up loving is going to have to burn to ash before it can be recovered...IF it can be recovered...which is justifiably questionable. Anyone saying Trump was a better choice should be forced to move to Russia...along with thd people who voted for him - or "obstained" and got him elected. This IS America's WORST GENERATION.
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