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As details of the death toll for January’s protests continue to emerge, three students explain why they are resisting a return to normality

More than 45 days after a brutal January crackdown that left thousands of Iranian protesters dead, students across several universities are protesting again. As Iran’s new academic term began on Saturday, students in Tehran gathered on campus, chanting anti-government slogans, despite a heavy security presence and plainclothes officers stationed outside university gates.

The Guardian spoke to protesting students about why they were rallying despite the fact that thousands had been killed and tens of thousands arrested in the January demonstrations.

“Our classrooms are empty because the graveyards are full,” said Hossein*, 21, a student at the University of Tehran. “It’s for them – our friends, classmates and compatriots, who were gunned down in front of our eyes, that we decided to boycott the classes.”

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[-] itslilith 121 points 2 months ago

The protests are good and justified, all power to the Iranian people. Iran deserves a second revolution, after the first one was taken over by the Mullahs for their own goals.

But it's genuinely disheartening how readily nominally progressive spaces are jumping abord the manufactured consent for an imperialist military intervention by Israel and the US.

How, exactly, will bombing Iranian cities help their liberation? Or even if they succeed with deposing the Mullah regime, is anyone really expecting self determination by the Iranian people afterwards? We're seen how the Shar's son is pushed as the next US puppet government by US- and Israeli media (and their European allies).

The Iranian people, not just the current regime, are supportive of Palestine, and Israel and the US absolutely cannot accept that. Don't cheer for imperialist intervention.

[-] desertdruid 22 points 2 months ago

at this point I'm don't understand it but I can see it as a possible future for a lot of Latin America

we are watching in real time how Venezuela is transforming into a US colony

right now Fidel's grandson is allegedly making deals with the US gov (while the US asks Mexico to stop any deals involving gas with Cuba)

and here in Mexico the state is so corrupt and the US propaganda is running strong for an intervention like the one in Venezuela (and what happened yesterday just made it worse)

[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The american savages are drooling at the prospect of colonizing Latin America as part of their future war effort with china. They will plant propaganda everywhere to steal from the global south as the death throes of their crumbling empire.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think most people are hoping for an attack on military targets like last year. No-one is calling for "bombing cities". That's a tankie fantasy. A fantankasy

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

People said the exact same thing about Libya in 2011. ‘Just military targets.’ ‘Just a no-fly zone.’ It's genuinely impressive how the same script can be rolled out over and over.

What it actually meant was destroying Libya’s air defenses and command systems. Once that was done, NATO pushed regime change, the state collapsed, and the country was handed over to militias, foreign powers, and jihadist groups. That’s the model.

When people say ‘only military targets,’ they’re repeating the same script. You don’t bomb a country’s defenses unless your goal is to weaken it. Once that happens, it’s open season: invasion, proxy forces, destabilization. These strikes are never isolated. They’re step one.

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[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The biggest death toll in the Iraq war didn't come from the US explicitly bombing civilians, it came from the US destroying the infrastructure and military of Iraq, leading to a failed state which melted the economy, led millions to destitute poverty, and created the conditions for the appearance of ISIS.

The US doesn't need to bomb civilians to murder them, they already murder half a million civilians worldwide every single year through economic sanctions, in which Iran is plastered.

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[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago

But it's genuinely disheartening how readily nominally progressive spaces are jumping abord the manufactured consent for an imperialist military intervention by Israel and the US.

Please provide evidence where this generally left-of-centre british reporting is "manufacturing consent". Which text lines do you think are trying to make us readers agree to that kind of action by these two states?

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 11 points 2 months ago

From the Wikipedia article of Atrocity Propaganda (I added emphasis):

Atrocity propaganda is the spreading of information about the crimes committed by an enemy, which can be factual, but often includes or features deliberate fabrications or exaggerations. This can involve photographs, videos, illustrations, interviews, and other forms of information presentation or reporting

"The inherently violent nature of war means that exaggeration and invention of atrocities often becomes the main staple of propaganda. Patriotism is often not enough to make people hate the enemy, and propaganda is also necessary"

The application of atrocity propaganda is not limited to times of conflict but can be implemented to sway public opinion and create a casus belli to declare war

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[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Left of centre

The guardian.

I'm not sure you know what it means to be left of centre.

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[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 23 points 2 months ago

Fuck the Mullah dictatorship!!!

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago

“But we know the regime can no longer kill students on campus and call us terrorists … We are not afraid of losing our lives. We all are willing to put our lives on the line so at least the next generations of this country will live in freedom and peace.”

Very great to hear and gives me so much hope for the future.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How is OP not banned? 18k posts which exclusively seem to be news, 5 comments, it's literally a propaganda bot, what the fuck!

[-] insight06@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

OP actually has hundreds (thousands?) of comments over the past few years, but all but the most recent are listed as deleted by creator. I won't speculate as to the reason for this, but just note that their current comment count doesn't reflect their historical contributions.

I'll also just leave this quote from one of the comment chains they've recently commented on:

@MicroWave@lemmy.world I just want to say thanks for posting quality links so frequently. You're one of the few who isn't posting click bait junk like Raw Story and Daily Beast.

I don’t personally keep track, but it seems some others do feel they make valuable contributions. I for one don't want to see anyone too quick to torch the relative few individuals putting content on Lemmy.

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Thanks for this comment. News about Iran seems to bring out extreme personalities lately it seems like.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Propaganda bot for posting The Guardian? You're ok?

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[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

May Iran become an Islamic Kingdom again.

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