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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 141 points 11 months ago

Y'all remember when Windows 10 was supposedly their last OS?

[-] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago
[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

From what I remember that quote was taken out of context.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago

I could see that. It felt like a weird thing to say. Oh well. My next OS is going to be Linux if I ever get around to buying a new computer. I've been "doing it soon" for a few years lol.

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

the last one you "buy", anyway.

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[-] big_slap@lemmy.world 126 points 11 months ago

now that gaming is getting better on Linux thanks to proton, I am unbothered

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Exactly what I was thinking.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 11 months ago

First of all they're going to have to release a distro which actually has, shock horror, proprietary drivers installed on it, because your average user isn't going to understand how to install them.

I've said this a few times but no one wants to hear it, I understand why they can't have proprietary drivers, but the fact that they don't have them is a major reason as to why Linux isn't more mainstream.

[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago

I understand why they can’t have proprietary drivers

Who can't have them? 90-some percent of Linux distributions make them available to those who are unfortunate enough to need them.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 17 points 11 months ago

Good thing Linux ships with AMD drivers by default, no install necessary. Nvidia will have to get off their asses and make their drives less of a pile of dog shit though.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So some drivers are not installed like I said

I'm not casting judgement on whether the drivers are good or not I'm merely pointing out that they're not preinstalled and a lot of people don't even know what a driver is.

If Linux isn't out of the box simple easy like Windows people are never going to switch to it no matter how terrible Microsoft become. They will go to Apple before they go to Linux.

[-] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 27 points 11 months ago

Hang on...

Some distros (mint, Ubuntu) prompt the user to install proprietary drivers during the installation process, it's very easy.

On Windows you have to download the latest drivers from the manufacturers website and install them manually, that's crazy!

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[-] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

So some drivers are not installed like I said

No, you said:

First of all they're going to have to release a distro which actually has, shock horror, proprietary drivers installed on it, because your average user isn't going to understand how to install them.

You're moving the goalposts.

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[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

VR Support is sorely lacking, though. And no, the Quest standalone is not a solution - it's an android phone strapped to your face.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago

The Valve Index works natively on Linux.

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 103 points 11 months ago

I look forward to welcoming all the new Linux users 🙂

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 30 points 11 months ago

I look forward to all the complaints on how linux isn't like windows. :)

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 10 points 11 months ago

Will you? Do you? To have and to hold? In sickness and in health?

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 85 points 11 months ago

as always, Microsoft is the biggest advertiser of Linux

[-] Razp@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

And still Linux is nowhere close to being a usable desktop OS experience. I'd pick Mac over Linux any day.

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

with respect, have you honestly tried desktop linux? what do you consider about it difficult?

[-] Razp@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

I keep trying it on and off since before suse/opensuse and redhat/fedora split.

From someone who's first distro was slackware: it has nothing to do with difficulty. Linux, even the most user friendly distros, kinda stuck for a regular non tech savy users

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

Apart from the fact that it’s a bullshit headline cobbled together from half truths to tickle your anger glands… sure.

[-] Virkkunen@kbin.social 77 points 11 months ago

And there's NeoWin again with the Windows 12 clickbaits. This "leak" is just Windows 11 IoT Enterprise Subscription, and there's absolutely nothing nowhere that even mentions the number 12.

https://twitter.com/XenoPanther/status/1710027423981388161

[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah, this seems like the kind of thing they'd try to push on Business/Pro+ users, where management is willing to fork out absurd amounts of money monthly as long as the per-seat price can be vaguely justified. Doing this for home users would just be dumb. Plenty of people would see the monthly subscription and go "eh I don't need a computer, I can just use my phone."

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[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 64 points 11 months ago

Y'all really need to actually click the article and read the first sentence. This has nothing to do with Windows 12, and even Neowin has clarified that right at the top in an update.

Microsoft is a bad company, but it's a little worrying when someone can just say some random things in a title and have it be believed without question, just because it paints Microsoft in a negative light.

[-] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

It's more that MS has leaned into the subscription model with Office 365 and such.

Windows is already kind of a "Freemium" OS, so I'm expecting them to continue in that fashion. Your are right, the article is mostly pointless speculation that was refuted anyways, but I'll admit it sounded a bit off to me anyways. MS wants people to be running Windows, so they can seem then GamePass subscriptions, Office365 subscriptions, and whatever other services they can think of. As such, I expect the core OS to be very free. Just what constitutes core functionality versus Premium features might change.

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[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

They're too smart to do this ...

More likely they will make the base OS free and charge for the premium SaaS features ... like they already do with one drive, O365 and game pass

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 41 points 11 months ago

Yeah that seems like the more likely move, have a free tier that starts off decent and a premium tier with 'power features' or whatever, and then slowly drift almost everything over to the 'premium' tier until in a few years you won't be able to change your desktop wallpaper without paying. That definitely sounds like the MS way to me.

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[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The year of the linux desktop is coming for real this time...!

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 30 points 11 months ago

Linux usage on pc jumps to 72%

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[-] GALM@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love when one of the richest companies on Earth (2nd by market cap, only behind Apple) just doesn't make enough money that they need to consider this bullshit. Fuck this infinite profit growth. This is so fucking stupid. Everything is a god damn subscription. Gotta wring out every penny from our customers as the good Lord intended.

[-] 2d@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

it's getting pretty insane isn't it? more and more obvious to the average person how consumer-unfriendly capitalism is

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[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

rip windows; thank you valve and proton

[-] gianni@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago

And you'll still hear "Well I know everything about Windows sucks and now I'm being charged out the ass, but I refuse to even consider switching because [one particular game doesn't work / I'm used to it]"

[-] Polar@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

I was asked why I can't switch to Linux, so I replied listing the software I require Windows for, and then was called a fanboy and downvoted heavily..

[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It appears that the other guy didn't call you a fanboy. He implied that you might be a troll, before you'd listed that software and after you'd called him a fanboy.

But yeah, it'll probably be a while before there's a Linux version of Adobe Illustrator, and the alternatives are different enough that it'd be a lot of work to switch even if it's otherwise practicable.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Cool, even more reason to stick with 10 as long as I can. Enshitify everything, who even cares anymore?

[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Will win 7 be the last ever usable OS from Microsoft, or will Windows 13 turn out decent? Only time will tell.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Win 10 was decent, perhaps better than Win 7 in many ways. It doesn't hold a candle to Linux though. I've been almost entirely on Linux since Vista, and the last time I booted into Windows was last year to get Minecraft Bedrock set up for my kid so he could play with his friend (that friend flaked, so we haven't bothered since).

My kids have pretty much only used OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (my Linux flavor of choice) and ChromeOS (at school).

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[-] techtalkf@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Personally, the only reason I don't fully switch to Linux is because of the Adobe Suite, but other than that, I would absolutely make the switch. I'm hoping that if this promopts enough people to make the switch, then Adobe will finally make versions of their Programs for Linux.

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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 11 months ago

didn't they say windows 10 was going to be the last version of windows? hence why they jumped to the number 10 as it's nice and round.

[-] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago

I thought they jumped to it because ancient, poorly made software would check for Windows 9* to cover 95 and 98, and could now potentially catch windows 9 as well

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