Blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure is a moronic idea that'll create an environmental disaster worse than the infrastructure existing. Instead, sabotage it so that it stops flowing.
Right?! All the dumbfucks talking about blowing up pipelines want to trade one environmental disaster for another. Its pathetically misguided.
Good point, way less environmental damage to do something about the execs and billionaires in this world
Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?
I'm just here to blow shit up tbh
Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?
difference?
Ethics refer to a set of rules provided by an external source. I think this is 100% a moral obligation to blow shit up.
How about a foreign fossil fuel infrastructure first?
-Your friendly neighborhood CIA agent
/s
Blowing it up will not stop them as they'd just rebuild. More pollution in the process.
Yeah, I assume there's gotta be a better way. Like clogging it beyond repair (shut off+completely solidified), siphoning operations (assuming a spill isn't caused)... And in either case, converting it into something less bad and/or storing the carbon in a stable manner.
(Although even rebuilding from what I see may be at least $1M-$2M per mile, they sure have the money but it's not insignificant either)
Run for office(or help someone) and make changes.
Ah yes, in 50 years we can make a real difference! If even that due to our flawed (FPtP) voting system and money in politics. We should give it a try though, as I don't think anyone has ever tried it before. Particularly as I assume these sorts of problems became known just this year... because otherwise we would've fixed them with our caring, functional, and proactive government ((/s))
I've looped around to sadomasochism.
Destroy the world! Kill us all! Burn me more daddy!!! 👐 😩 💦
Just killing billionaires is probably the best option
Can we run a Go Fund Me to hire a hitman?
Flash mob might work better.
Justices that pass down shitty decisions should be pretty high up there too.
It's easily what has the most direct effect on our political landscape.
If the us and China had a nuclear war the planet might survive.
We will. Cancer is only a problem if you don't have Moderna's cancer treatment.
The bigger problem is managing supply chains when China is gone.
Lol wow, this thread is full of internet tough guy syndrome. Hilariously cringy.
Same thoughts, my mind even came up with a good plan. Drones equipped with remote activated termite pots. It melts through steel easily and fossil fuels burn. You can do this from a distance and it uses cheap available materials. I don't have the guts to do it though... So it remains an Idea.
Exactly what I was just thinking. This exact realization is a significant plot point in the book
I am re-reading this currently! Love KSR, but wow eerily apt with MftF.
Hooray, more stuff to read!
I would, but this bad air quality thanks to our fossil fuel industry has given me pretty bad asthma and other respetory problems resulting in low energy.
Too sleepy.
Y'all blow it up for me tho, ya? Imma take a nap.
Easy. Think this, believe this, never do anything about it. Let's see how you grow to handle it.
and pay attention to your wife!
Final Fantasy VII
I watch the Watchmen.
See, by posting this, I'm on the watchlist too. So the watchlist is watching the watchmen watching the watchlist watching the watchmen ad infinitum. If you're asking "watch the fuck?", to explain without using the word watch, I've engaged an infinite mobius surveillance loop.
Side note, by making it to the bottom of this comment, you've all done Dr. Seuss proud.
Monkey Wrench gang gang
So your solution to fossil fuels causing pollution. Is to cause an ecological disaster? "Let's blow up the pipeline full of oil that is bad for everything it touches. Surely the resulting oil spill won't be bad for everything covered".
Smash the Petroliarchy!!!
It would be more productive to ask your congressperson to support a carbon fee and dividend, so that carbon emitters return money to the citizens instead of wasting it on repairs:
https://citizensclimatelobby.org/get-loud-take-action/energy-innovation-act/
No watchlists on lemmy post away ;)
That is a BOLD assumption no three letter agency scrapes data from Lemmy.
Small companies measure their hard drive capacity in Gigabytes/Terrabytes. Large companies measure their hard drive capacities in Petabytes/Heptabytes. The NSA measures their hard drive capacity in acreage.
I generally imagine myself standing on trial with the argument of self defense. While it's what I would argue in a hypothetical criminal trial, the outcome is enough of a deterrent
Does that mean I'm morally obligated to burn that lady's shirt?
Collapse
We have moved to https://lemm.ee/c/collapse -- please adjust your subscriptions
This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.
Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.
RULES
1 - Remember the human
2 - Link posts should come from a reputable source
3 - All opinions are allowed but discussion must be in good faith.
4 - No low effort posts.
Related lemmys:
- /c/green
- /c/antreefa
- /c/gardening
- /c/nativeplantgardening@mander.xyz
- /c/eco_socialism@lemmygrad.ml
- c/collapse@sopuli.xyz
- /c/biology
- /c/criseciv
- /c/eco