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submitted 4 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The National Rifle Association (NRA) criticized comments by a senior federal prosecutor warning that approaching law enforcement with a gun could justify a fatal police response, saying such statements risk "demonizing law‑abiding citizens" as the nation reels from the killing of a man in Minneapolis by a U.S. border agent.

The NRA was responding to remarks by Bill Essayli, the first assistant U.S. attorney for the Central District of California, who said that "if you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you," adding, "Don’t do it."

In a statement, the gun‑rights group called that view "dangerous and wrong," urging public officials to refrain from broad generalizations and to wait for the outcome of a full investigation into Alex Pretti’s death.

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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 139 points 4 weeks ago

Oh sure now that it's a white guy they'll make a statement. I don't recall hearing anything like this when Philando Castile got shot. Or Breonna Taylor's boyfriend.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 41 points 4 weeks ago

The NRA has remained silent when white guys got shot as well. It's not a race thing its a bootlicking thing. That's why this mild rebuke is a big deal, they don't normally say a damn thing when LE shoots someone regardless of the victims race or ethnicity.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 4 weeks ago

Thought of that immediately.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 66 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I’d be willing to bet the Republicans abandon the NRA before they abandon trump.

Edit: the NRA also said this

"For months, radical progressive politicians like Tim Walz have incited violence against law enforcement officers who are simply trying to do their jobs. Unsurprisingly, these calls to dangerously interject oneself into legitimate law-enforcement activities have ended in violence, tragically resulting in injuries and fatalities," wrote the NRA.

While completely ignoring they supported Rittenhouse showing up to a dangerous situation armed. Don’t think the NRA stopped being pieces of shit.

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 55 points 4 weeks ago

I stand corrected. I assumed in another thread the NRA would remain silent.

This doesn't justify their existence, however. They are still ultimately simply a propaganda political scheme for weapons manufacturers

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 30 points 4 weeks ago

Turn it around.

These people happily demanded gun laws when it was the Black Panthers exercising their rights.

This is close to having a bishop fly a pride flag.

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

When a white teenager travelles across state lines to branish a gun they do not own, for the purpose of killing peaceful BLM protestors, the NRA and GOP raises hell to make the kid a mainstream fascist icon.

When minorities and leftists are massacred for exercising their constitutional 2nd Amendment rights, its a simple Facebook post from the NRA, and the GOP suddenly abandons the 2nd Amendment.

Again, Nazi playbook. They disarmed.the Jews while making guns easier to acquire for their party members.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 13 points 4 weeks ago

https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2020/04/the-black-panthers-nra-ronald-reagan-armed-extremists-and-the-second-amendment

The NRA was happy to help disarm the Black Panthers back in the day.

This seems like a pretty big deal. It might be just one guy running his mouth, but it could mean something more.

[-] dantel@programming.dev 10 points 4 weeks ago

They only have a problem with the 'walking around armed might provoke law enforcement to shoot you, so don't do it' narrative.

They don't like telling people not to carry guns. That's all.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago

https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2020/04/the-black-panthers-nra-ronald-reagan-armed-extremists-and-the-second-amendment

The NRA helped pass the 'Black Panther Law'

I'm not a fan of the NRA and I won't say this is more than what it is.

On the other hand, if the NRA is breaking with Trump, that could mean big trouble in the midterms.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago

They are a money laundering operation to funnel Russian cash to the RNC.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 50 points 4 weeks ago

It's cute how they say, "Don't approach law enforcement with a gun", when in fact it was law enforcement who approached Mr. Pretti.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

I so want to reply something about sniping that will get me put on a list, but it’s clear statements from the administration have successfully demonized certain law enforcement agencies.

I know a few cops and generally believe they do a good job. It’s easy to say #ACAB when the headlines are a small percentage of officers. Yeah, yeah, I know

After speaking out against the formation of DHS after 9-11, I admit to accepting it and letting it go. But it’s clearly a huge part of the problem here. Individual agencies would have given more opportunities for checks and balances against the fascists. Letting our fear drive us to one huge overarching national police agency has led to all the problems we feared. This needs to end

There’s no way to justify the way ice has been acting. No way they will ever be trusted again. There are all the memes talking about how we don’t hear from the proud boys and similar ilk because they’ve been recruited, and it’s way too easy to believe. Thats exactly how ice has been behaving.

++++ I read of two states with bills pending to reject ice from any state law enforcement jobs, and it seems like a start. We all need to talk to our representatives and at least get this going

[-] huppakee@piefed.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

*who didn't have a gun (out)

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 weeks ago

Unsure if they still are but recall NRA was completely compromised by Russia in Trump's first term. That whole bit with Butina (unsure if spelled correctly basically slept with a bunch of higher ups due to being affiliated with the NRA) who now (or used) to be in Russias equivalent of congress. Yeah can't trust that organization. Sure the money dried up somewhat but still some channels available to push out some messages on their behalf.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago

I'm waiting for this while I'm ALSO waiting for the Renee Good investigation.

I'm also waiting for the Epstein files that were supposed to ALREADY be released.

I'm getting tired of waiting.

[-] huppakee@piefed.social 2 points 4 weeks ago

I think we can wait for those exactly as long as palastians are waiting for the results of investigations into Israeli soldiers that misbehaved.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago

NRA can read the writing on the wall forthe post Trump era changes. Gun gonna need a licence, and checks.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Okay NRA, are you actually concerned? Then start endorsing democrats.

Until then, you're hypocritical pieces of shit and you can shut the fuck up. You helped put us here.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 points 4 weeks ago

Great coalition building there.

Back in WW2, resistance fighters took help from racist america despite the fact there were still lynchings going on.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Actions speak louder than words. Words mean nothing. Those resistance fighters received actual material support. What is the NRA offering? Platitudes.

Until the NRA takes meaningful steps to prove they actually care, they can shut the fuck up. They're pretending to care right now because it's politically expedient.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 4 weeks ago

So, words mean nothing, but you feel a need to keep reiterating your point.

There's an old saying, don't try to get on the train before it stops.

Don't get upset if people don't change overnight.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

So, words mean nothing, but you feel a need to keep reiterating your point.

As do you.

And "change overnight"? We've had 5 years now of that orange-painted rapist destroying everything it touches. If people haven't changed by now, they're not going to.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States

People began organizing for women's suffrage in the 1840s. They got the right almost 100 years later.

Five years means nothing. Change is tough.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 4 weeks ago

Against? Really? Did Newsweek forget to read the NRA statement?

[-] TomMasz@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago

The NRA's only principle is taking care of itself. That whole "take up arms against tyranny" is a marketing slogan. If it wasn't, they'd have done something long before this.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago

So according to the NRA shooting law enforcement when armed is always self-defence?

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