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All the other discussions I found on Lemmy dismiss it because they find the idea of a second phone ridiculous. Or because they don't buy into the "dumb phone" concept. But I think it makes a compelling phone on it's own, and you wouldn't need a second.

But really look into it. By every indication it appears designed to be a fully featured main phone. It has some compromises made to fit the keyboard first philosophy, but it has everything you'd need and more. Dual SIM (eSIM+physical), a headphone jack, micro SD Card support, a 50mp camera with OIS (I know megapixels don't mean much but I think it shows it's not gonna be the cheapest crap camera), NFC/Google Pay support, Android Auto, Qi2... That doesn't read "second phone" to me. It's just.... phone.

They have now said that it will have an unlockable bootloader too. I'm not finding much to dislike here. 8GB of RAM is somewhat low but should be fine. The processor is still a question mark but honesty as long as it's not bottom of the barrel it should be perfectly fine. I have always gone for flagship phones but honestly I've started analyzing what I actually do on my phone and I pretty much never push the hardware. I like knowing I have the top of the line but I basically just web browse, message, read email, scroll Lemmy, and listen to music/podcasts. Very occasionally watch some YouTube but that's usually on my TV or PC. No gaming or anything. I should be able to do all of that on this device, some of it won't be as good on that screen obviously but it should still be doable. I need the camera to at least be decent. Not great just not garbage. Like it's fine if the low light performance is meh and the video isn't the best. But I don't want to look at my photos and regret taking it with that device, so we'll see.

I don't want a dumb phone, and I don't think this is one. You should be able to do everything any other phone can. I don't think it's a second phone either. I think they're just leaning into that for marketing reasons, so that when anyone points out the tradeoffs of this form factor they can just wave it away as a secondary device.

It appeals to me because it's a small phone. Seriously nobody makes one worth using. Unihertz sure, if you want a bad software experience with no updates ever. But otherwise you just have the non-plus sized iPhone/Galaxy S. Those are considered small. Or maybe the flip-foldables. It also appeals to me because it has major character and (imo) style. I'm bored of glass and metal sandwiches. Give me this! A plastic device with a swappable back that has a (vegan?) leather option? Hell yeah.

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[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 65 points 4 weeks ago

8gig of RAM is a bit low

Manufacturers are going to ship laptops with 8gb ram in 2026!!

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 9 points 4 weeks ago

Oh wow, my incredibly snappy phone currently has 8GB of ram.

[-] obsidianfoxxy7870 63 points 4 weeks ago

If it has even decent custom ROM support I would 100% consider it. I hate it as a second device but as a main I love the design.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago

Someone in the last thread said that the Mediatek SOC makes ROM support unlikely.

[-] btsax@reddthat.com 38 points 4 weeks ago

I might be in the minority here but I will not use a phone that I can't strip Google Play and other Google services out of, so it would need support from something like Lineage, Graphene, e, Linux, etc before I would consider it.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 4 weeks ago

I mean they said the bootloader is unlockable so at least being able to disable Google services should be possible. We'll see how community support goes.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 12 points 4 weeks ago

If it's flashable and the community support is good enough then this might be my next device. Will have to check on it once the community drops support for my ancient secondhand phone. XD

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 weeks ago

I recall someone here on Lemmy emailing their support and they replied confirming it's bootloader unlockable.
Graphene is unlikely because of their ultra tight security requirements (I really believe the only time we ever get a supported phone outside of the Pixel is when Graphene makes their own or partners directly with a OEM) but hey, most likely Lineage!

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 33 points 4 weeks ago

256GB on-board + expandable MicroSD card storage up to 2TB

$400. Reservation 200.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 26 points 4 weeks ago

I'm not thrilled about the processor, but this guy is still on my radar because of the physical keyboard and expandable storage, not upset to see a headphone jack either.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 weeks ago

Do they even say what processor it has? All I see is "4-nanometer, 5G IoT SoC platform from MediaTek" which means nothing to me.

[-] deepfriedchril@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

No, they are waiting to announce. People have speculated as there's only a few that would be viable.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It would really have to be bad for me to hate it I think. I don't do anything that needs crazy performance, I've come to realize.

[-] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Why would you need a lot of RAM on a phone that I assume you would want to use less? Isn't that really what this is for? People who want to stare at their phone less?

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 13 points 4 weeks ago

I never mentioned RAM, my only criticism was the Mediatek processor. This thing has 8GB of RAM, which should be plenty.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 weeks ago

I don't know. That's not what I want it for. I just want to use it as a regular phone.

[-] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

RIM should blow everyone's mind and release a new QWERTY BlackBerry. The market would lose their shit.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 20 points 4 weeks ago

I'd rather have a new Palm device, too bad their management shit the bed and destroyed the company.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 weeks ago

I loved my palm. It was great.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 weeks ago

Capitalize, folks.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago

"Smart enough" would have been nice marketing, no?

[-] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 weeks ago

While I fully understand why it doesn’t have umlauts that’s a dealbreaker for me for this and probably pretty much every such device that will ever come out nowadays.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 weeks ago

If they make a model with a QWERTZ keyboard I might consider it as my next phone.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 4 weeks ago

I'm sure if this sees any kind of success more localization is inevitable.

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[-] deepfriedchril@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Clicks did an AMA over on Reddit yesterday. Was actually pretty good.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago

I don't get the keyboard appeal.. Not since swiping became a thing. Sure, back in 2005 it was awesome, but what year is it?

[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

Swiping has become increasingly shitty for me and predictive text is approaching unusable. I would love to have a physical keyboard again.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago

This has puzzled me for a long time. I had the same phone from the introduction of the original swype to it becoming inexplicably worse, to gboard being functionally better if you can ignore it probably spying on you via goog services even with internet permission removed, to that also becoming mysteriously worse, and all the other attempts at implementing it coming and going while never reaching the level of swype or gboard at their peaks.
I considered maybe my old phone had a deteriorated touch panel but three phones later and it's still never been as good. I've been wondering if the tired scenario occurred of some common code like an unattributed foss library that had an update that broke the original functionality of multiple swipe keyboards and none of the keyboard devs ever noticed.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

I've also noticed that swipe typing has become increasingly shitty, until I realized it's me. I've become too proficient, and/or sloppy/clumsy. I'm too fast, basically, causing inaccuracy and imprecision. If I just slow down and swipe with more precision, it's a lot better.

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[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Physical keyboard > touch keyboard.

I hate touch keyboards. 9 times out of 10 they're fine. But there's that one time where I keep missing the exact same letter for maybe 5 attempts, even when I carefully try to click it exactly spot on 🤬

I'd have become a murderer if not for completion suggestions and spell checkers

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[-] Magister@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Too bad it will not work in Canada for some carrier like Rogers who VoLTE blacklist phones they don't sell...

Also what is the target price of this phone?

[-] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure that's not even legal in the US where corporations have the same rights are humans.

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[-] oOAlteredBeastOo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

I'm into it. Would make a great work device. The power keyboard product also looks like an interesting product.

Clicks Power Keyboard

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[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

I agree, I would totally but it as a main phone. Especially if it gets Lineage OS!

But last year I already bought F(x)tec Pro 1X, which is also a great keyboard phone and I usually don't update phones too often 🙂

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[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

Man, if this thing can run one of the various Linux phone OSes, I'm buying it in a heartbeat. Shame about the huge corner radius on the screen, though. That'll make it annoying for terminals.

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

$400usd to pre order a phone thats almost the same as the phone i had in 2011, but golly would I like to have one

[-] Doublenut@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 weeks ago

I was considering one just the other day as my main phone for all of the reasons tou stated. You can treat it as a dumb phone if you want sure but it certainly isn't.

[-] khepri@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This looks cool but what exactly is it doing to be productivity focused other than having a screen that would suck to watch videos on and a keyboard that never goes away?

The reason the Blackberry was adopted as a work productivity device was because other mobile options you had to type using T9 and with a Blackberry you could get your emailing done on a mobile device. But that's been every phone now for almost 20 years.

So I get it as something nice for people who are nostalgic for Blackberries, but Click's focus on this somehow being "communication focused" while a smartphone is, I guess, not, doesn't make much sense to me.

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[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

Communicator will launch on Android 16, with support for up to at least Android 20. We’re committing to a minimum of 4 years of Android version updates and 5 years of security updates.

Idk, Pixels ate supported for like 7 years. So after about 5 years, this phone is toast?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 4 weeks ago

Just out of interest how long do you keep a phone because I feel like 5 years is pretty much around the time everyone's looking to get a new phone.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 5 points 4 weeks ago

Pixel batteries will degrade to the point of being annoying in under 7 years. 5 years is a pretty good lifespan for a phone.

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[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 3 points 4 weeks ago

You can use a phone beyond the manufacturer security updates. They aren't the only layer of security in Android, that was the whole point of Project Mainline.

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[-] glitching@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I mean, you do you, but I'll pass this and every other money burning thing and not give it a second glance. my pocket computer is a universal machine, thus I can program it and set it up the way I want to. and if I don't want no AI & friends on my property - that's what's gonna happen.

if all that crap is truly bugging you, put a blank android on yo phone. set up all apps to work without any intrusions. if I want to talk to people, I open the talk-to-people-app. if I want to read up on stuff, I open the reading-stuff-app. no notifications, no reminders, no nothing, my device doesn't beep at me and demand shit, it's there to serve me when I need it.

I guarantee you nobody at Xiaomi imagined I'd be running the thing the way I do, let alone - almost a decade after it was introed!

what I'm saying is, we have all the hardware that we're ever gonna need already created and all we have to do is use it and ignore every spend-money-to-fix-problem ideas from them visionaries and mavericks and those kinda folk.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

if all that crap is truly bugging you, put a blank android on yo phone. set up all apps to work without any intrusions. if I want to talk to people, I open the talk-to-people-app. if I want to read up on stuff, I open the reading-stuff-app. no notifications, no reminders, no nothing, my device doesn't beep at me and demand shit, it's there to serve me when I need it.

I think you're missing the point. I don't want it to be something that makes me use phones less. I want to use it as my regular phone. Like I'm saying I want it to be my next phone and use it just like any regular phone.

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[-] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Double on that last paragraph. I want to get a unihertz, but the struggle with software drives me far from it

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