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[-] neatchee@piefed.social 116 points 1 month ago

This is pretty transparently not a recruitment tactic, but an attempt to get these students to identify their parents as undocumented.

"Yes sir, I'm interested in your offer. Why? Well because my parents are undocumented. Wait, why is ICE here now?"

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago

These ghouls will try every trick in the book to get people to sign up. They’ve always done that. They have no shame at all. This might be a new low, even for them.

[-] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

no consequences will follow from this shit, while they call unarmed women trying to get away "terrorist" and blame her murder on her spouse

[-] benignintervention@piefed.social 24 points 1 month ago

Commenting for some context.

I have some experience with this since I was a recruiter for a couple years (Disclaimer: before trump). I did officer recruiting and had no quota, so I had the freedom to be more honest with people. My first question was always, "Do you want to join the military?" And if the answer was "no" I'd tell them to go do anything else. If the answer was "yes," I'd try to figure out what they really wanted. Often what they wanted was something they could find elsewhere and I would tell them so and how to get there. Occasionally someone would just be pro-military and I put a lot of energy into explaining that there are no promises, no guarantees, and the government will do what it wants with you whether you like it or not. My goal was to dismiss misconceptions (often generated by media/movies or recruiting ads themselves). This was before this insane trump era and I had fewer reservations if someone truly wanted it AND had the wherewithal to be a decent human about it.

Enlisted recruiters don't necessarily have the same leeway. They are directly graded on the number of enlistments they get in whatever reporting period. Their promotions often depend on it. They are also given materials and information to use. The message above looks like a mixture of someone trying to meet their enlistment quota through outreach and a certain well-intentioned blindness that comes from years of indoctrination to trust the system. I'd be hesitant to say this recruiter is personally trying to round up immigrants, although there is always a chance. It seems more likely that this either came from higher in the organization, like Pentagon level directive (arguably more concerning), or comes from short-sighted intention to help without considering or being aware of the broader dangers so they're trying to disseminate info about programs that could have been helpful in the past without understanding how they can also be weaponized.

That being said! Intention doesn't matter. This is a program that can be weaponized and it should be ridiculed as such.

PSA: Everyone should always be highly skeptical when dealing with recruiters, now more than ever, especially since they are graded on number of enlistments. If anyone you know is considering an enlistment tell them that recruiters are not there to help you get what you want, they're there to make numbers. The incentive structure for them is not in anyone else's best interest. I've found this argument to be effective where more ideological arguments may not land or may further entrench.

[-] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

The message above looks like a mixture of someone trying to meet their enlistment quota through outreach and a certain well-intentioned blindness that comes from years of indoctrination to trust the system. I’d be hesitant to say this recruiter is personally trying to round up immigrants, although there is always a chance.

This was my read as well. That E-6 probably doesn't care about immigration and the like; he just wants to dangle whatever carrot he can to get bodies.

It's scummy, but it's not meant to be as malicious as it comes off.

That being said! Intention doesn’t matter. This is a program that can be weaponized and it should be ridiculed as such.

100%.

[-] s@piefed.world 15 points 1 month ago

It sure would be awful if these teenagers held a vendetta regarding this threat and took up this offer only to shoot their superior officers as soon as they were provided a firearm

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This might not even be from the national guard. It might be directly from ICE posting as NG.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Another thing they have in common with Nazi Germany. You basically had to have at least one family member in a Nazi organisation or face reprisals.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

They will sign up and their parents will be targeted for deportation.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago

textbook gang behavior.

[-] Nanook@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

This is the DARE program all over

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