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[-] fennesz12@feddit.dk 185 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I see a lot of right wing influencers arguing a kind of might makes right rhetoric. They say that the US should take Greenland simply because it can, and the US needs it. Which makes me wonder if I as a Dane am morally justified in gathering a few friends, breaking into these influencers homes, kicking them out, and just take up residence. After all, I need their houses, and my friends and I are stronger. Isn't that so?

I suppose there is no moral obligation for me to obey American laws, if there is no moral obligation for America to obey international laws. If the US is justified in hostile takeover of a foreign democratic nation, then I see no reason why I, as a Danish citizen, should abide by US laws.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 month ago

You're descendants of Vikings. Go Viking.

Take their treasure while you're at it.

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[-] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 42 points 1 month ago

Anyone who is talking about this should first realize that a NATO member is trying to get territory from another member just because they think it's better for their geopolitical situation, this will break NATO as an alliance because then Greece and Turkey will take it as a greenlight to take action against the disputed territories between themselves. Which will cause the collapse of NATO and who knows what Non-NATO countries will try to do. This is not about MAGA bullshit it will cause a huge change and might even cause the WW3 to start instead of the proxy wars we've been seeing. I'm saying this a person who doesn't like NATO.

[-] fennesz12@feddit.dk 11 points 1 month ago

Well said, and it really puts it all into perspective. There are vast geopolitical consequences.

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[-] ssladam@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

These morons would take us back to living in caves and knocking women over the head with clubs to claim their spouse if they had their druthers.

This juvenile "might makes right" perspective is so goddam infantile it's almost laughable, if these weren't the idiots with the guns.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

A Dane invading and pillaging... I've heard this one before.

Do it. Embrace your Viking ancestry.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

you are morally justified in using the method of your aggressor enemy against them, yes

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[-] X@piefed.world 105 points 1 month ago

If it’s America, just shoot. No need for questions at this point.

[-] West_of_West@piefed.social 34 points 1 month ago

We shot and thought it was self explanatory.

[-] X@piefed.world 9 points 1 month ago

Other nations need to follow your lead.

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[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 month ago

Good. Someone needs to stand up to Trump.

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Good for them! If you have an armed military coming in to steal your land, you have no other choice but to fight to the death.

Trump wanted to start as many wars as possible as quickly as possible, and his regime is making sure it happens FAST.

[-] Alvaro 29 points 1 month ago

Just adding: because he is a a MEGA PEDO WHO RAPED CHILDREN AND THIS IS ALL BECAUSE HE WANTS PEOPLE TO FORGET ABOUT THE EPSTIEN FILES

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump wanted to start as many wars as possible as quickly as possible, and his regime is making sure it happens FAST.

All while whining that he should get the Nobel Peace Prize. Did anyone ever explain to him that the Peace in the Peace Prize doesn't stand for "Piece Of Ass" in the Epstein way?

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is idiotic. Denmark gave US right to freely access it's military bases. They signed new treaty in 2023 and further approved US military bases on their soil in 2025! How will they know US is invading them when US has legal right to access their military installations and can request the use private land in Denmark? They will shoot first and ask if they were Americans later?

souse: https://apnews.com/article/denmark-united-states-military-bases-greenland-749f68105ff6452ebfeb7ab2cbc282b7

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What is idiotic is the bullshit that the paedo in chief is trying to pull.

It doesn't matter what Denmark signed 3 years ago now that the other side is threatening an invasion.

Stop everything until either the orange child rapist is killed, dies, is forcibly ousted, or (lol) common sense prevails. Until then any us soldier or worker should be classed as a threat and any unnecessary us personnel should leave. The end.

If any us person in Greenland has to ask themself "am I necessary?", then they aren't. And should leave.
If the us population doesn't like it then they should do something about the russian stooge they've enabled to be president (twice).

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They voted to permit US military bases on Danish soil in 2025, AFTER Trump started talking about taking over Greenland. So Trump made idiotic demand and they rolled over. Now they are trying to play tough. It's just pathetic.

Stop everything until either the orange child rapist is killed, dies, is forcibly ousted, or (lol) common sense prevails. Until then any us soldier or worker should be classed as a threat and any unnecessary us personnel should leave. The end.

Yeah, they could unilaterally pull out of those treaties but they didn't. Until they do talking about "shooting first" is just idiotic.

[-] urandom@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

You'd be surprised to learn that Denmark is not really The Netherlands. What the unrelated country had done in 2025 likely has no relation to what Denmark is experiencing.

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[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

It doesn't matter. They've gone from "We might bully you" to "We have the right to take anything we want from any other country"
And as with any bully you should stand up to them and never back down. It matters fuck all about contracts and treaties and agreements.

If my next door neighbour said in passing he was going to attack my house, then stated he had the right to attack me in my house you better believe that as soon as I see that neighbour coming anywhere near me then I'm attacking first.
If you want to cower behind 'agreements' then you can. See how that works out for you.

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[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 month ago

They have to request the use of private land and obviously most of Greenland and Denmark is not a US military base.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But US can freely access their military bases. And US has their own military bases in Greenland. So who Greenland is going to shoot exactly? The airplanes flying to US bases in Greenland? The soldiers legally entering Danish military bases?

Also:

"When requested, the Danish Executive Agent shall make reasonable efforts to facilitate temporary access to and use of private land and facilities (including roads, ports, and airfields), and public land and facilities (including roads, ports, and airfields) that are not a part of an Agreed Facility and Area, including those owned or controlled by Denmark or by local authorities, by U.S. forces, U.S. contractors, and Danish contractors for use in support of U.S. forces. U.S. forces, U.S. contractors, or Danish contractors shall not bear the cost of such facilitation"

US can request access and Denmark has to facilitate it if possible. They can't just deny it because they don't feel like it. That's the 2023 agreement.

https://www.fmn.dk/globalassets/fmn/dokumenter/nyheder/2023/-us-denmark-dca-den-prime-english-20dec2023-.pdf

"U.S. forces, U.S. contractors, Danish contractors, dependents, and others as mutually agreed are authorized unimpeded access to and use of Agreed Facilities and Areas for visits; training; exercises; maneuvers; transit; support and related activities; refueling of aircraft; bunkering of vessels; landing and recovery of aircraft; temporary maintenance of vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; accommodation of personnel; communications; staging and deploying of forces and materiel; pre-positioning of equipment, supplies, and materiel; security assistance and cooperation activities; joint and combined training activities; humanitarian and disaster relief activities; contingency operations; construction in support of mutually agreed activities"

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

from what I understand, they also make it pretty easy for American companies to buy licenses to mine whatever they want from the ground

there is no good reason to occupy the country. it makes no sense

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago

what if they didn't want to buy the licenses? what if they just wanted to take everything?

what if the US is the new nazi germany and just needs lebensraum for a post-climate change world?

so many questions, who can say

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[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 22 points 1 month ago
[-] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Please shoot first. Let’s kick this thing off. For the record, I’m not for taking Greenland via force.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago

I just read that Rubio is coming to visit. They could prove their resolve by shooting him first.

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[-] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

I doubt Denmark could fend off the U.S., especially since other NATO countries are likely just monitoring the situation rather than taking action.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago

There are multiple countries having dialogues to plan their actions.

This is no longer a situation where the US can simply walk in and take what it wants and getting a big payoff instead of facing consequences.

Allies will form. Even the worst segment of the US population doesn't want WWIII, a civil war yes, but they don't want their kids drafted to die over the annex of Greenland.

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

They might do a good enough job to not make it worth taking, though it's a bit of a hard thing to judge when the invading force isn't using logic

[-] jaxxed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

This is the only goal the Europe can aim for. Force the U.S. to take a step that they don't want to, and that they will lose because of. They won't lose militarily, but they could lose politically and economically in the long tern.

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[-] coredev@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Nordics are pretty great at arctic warfare, just look at how well the Finns did. Pretty much all their gear are usable in arctic conditions and they train regularly for guerrilla warfare in extreme cold. The situation for the US is not the same. Most of their gear will not work in the winter in Greenland.

Im not saying they will win, i just mean that it's more complex than having the larger gun.

However, the US are about to loose big in trade. Who the hell will want to buy American?

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The US has a military base in Greenland already. Pituffik Space Base doesn't appear to be going anywhere, despite all the bluster.

And as the US is the military backbone of NATO, I'm not seeing how NATO as an institution would respond with the leadership structure and base management riddled with American personal.

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[-] roserose56@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Remember who started everything!
I guess we gonna wait for the court in USA to stop Trump. No revolution, sit and watch.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Obviously it was Denmark. Did you even see how it dressed Greenland? What did it expect?

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[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

Yep! So if US comes, they will send in their F35, after having keyed in the mission parameters, that will go straight to a Lockheed server in the US to be uploaded in the jets, and with that they will take their ennemy by surprise!

Oh, shit! The jets were shot down! Weren't they stealth??

Danes will have to order more, then…

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Phones have got to be ringing off the hook at Saab sales offices right now.

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Does that include the US troops already stationed in Greenland?

[-] Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I would believe if they would not surrender formally and act hostile then yes.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Seems like there's already enough hostility to justify asking them to leave.

[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The Johnathon Ross Doctrine.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This stupid idea of those fucking MAGAts is what Putin likes to see how it would play out.

[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

" ... that's how America does it ... "

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