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[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 155 points 2 years ago

Remember when Musk said he was working on saving all those people, but then someone else actually did it instead of just trying to show off on Twitter, so Musk baselessly called him a pedophile? You know, like a normal well-adjusted human.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hate current Elon behaviour too but I don't think Musk's reaction was completely "baseless", pretty sure the diver guy was the one that started the fight, insulting the submarine tesla's engineers made.

Calling him a pedo is a bit too extreme though

[-] JorMaFur@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

I mean, I can call all Tesla cars stupid, all SpaceX rockets garbage, .. doesn't mean Elon gets to insult me personally all of a sudden, does it?

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 17 points 2 years ago

It was a ridiculous submarine that could not have worked. There's a massive difference between an expert commenting on amateurish nonsense and a libellous playground taunt.

Revealing though. Every right-wing accusation is a confession.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I'd like to summarize your comment: I wouldn't call his comment baseless except that it had no basis.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He wasn't insulting the submarine itself, because it had not been built. It did not even exist in a conceptual state beyond Musk's imagination. The diver was criticizing the idea of using a submarine itself, considering the cave that those kids were stuck in had an opening just barely large enough for a full grown adult to slip through. It was, and still is to this day, the worst solution anybody could have proposed for the problem at hand, billionaire or otherwise.

But when the expert chimed in and said "thanks but no thanks" to his crappy idea, Elon Musk took it super personally and called the dude a pedophile, which is a life-ruining accusation when it comes from a multi-billionaire with millions of rabid fans who think he's the next Edison. Even if only 1% of his fanbase believed it was true, that's still a lot of people who now genuinely believe that guy rapes kids and only cared about rescuing the Thai youth soccer team because he was a child predator. They're going to spread the lie and ruin his reputation. Musk was never punished for this and gave a half-hearted apology to improve the dismal optics he was facing.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

sure, I agree with your second paragraph but wdym by "the submarine had not been built"? are you just going by assumptions or do you mean something else?

[-] flubo@feddit.de 139 points 2 years ago

Two days before there was news about the giga factory close to Berlin where they produce batteries for tesla. Its incredibly unsafe to work there. Other German car factory have 2/3 less accidents and less severe ones. The article was really alarming. Everyone spoke about it. Then followed the x about the afd. Now everyone speaks about that. Smart move. Please let's speak about people almost dying in those factories again!

[-] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Funny how there is always an event that occurs so close to Musk needing to kick up a fuss. Shame the press is not more switched on and calling it out.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago

I agree that people should be talking about the unsafe conditions in his (and any) factories, but lets not pretend that him openly supporting Nazis, even if he is doing it to divert attention, is still him openly supporting Nazis, and that is a serious threat.

[-] Duxon@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

Can you talk more about this here by posting a good quality source?

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That man is not worth the amount of air he breathes. He is a tumor on society. I cannot put into words how despicable I find him.

[-] CosmoNova@feddit.de 58 points 2 years ago

Where is the anger? He made a stupid post, siding with what can only be described as neo nazis and got owned by the german foreign ministry on his own platform. Didn‘t stop him from doubling down with insane radical right claims, though. Anyway, that‘s a bad headline of quite an empty article if I may say so.

[-] morhp@lemmy.wtf 33 points 2 years ago

A few years ago I had some respect for Musk because he build electric cars and quite revolutionary space ships. Funny how that's now all gone now.

[-] chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 88 points 2 years ago

He didn’t build any of that shit.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago

He did, however, make a good job im convincing peolle that he does shit. He builds electric cars, he builds rockets.

Not the actual engineers and workers, it's magic Musk.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

He wasn’t even a founder of Tesla. He bought them out.

[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

His undisputed contribution is that he hired Gwynne Shotwell for SpaceX.

[-] b00m@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

I hope the EU fines the shit out of this douche bag

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

I hope the EU shuts fucking twitter down for antisemitic and Nazi propaganda

[-] Wootz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[-] willis936@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

If you're asking because you don't know how truly awful and scary AfD is: AfD is truly awful and the prospect of them gaining control is very scary. One of the world's richest people can make things happen in politics.

If you're asking because Musk supporting right wing politics is well known: yeah but see above. AfD is scary shit.

[-] Cycloprolene@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] willis936@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They are remarkably close to being able to push the "ethnic cleansing" button. They have stated their motive, they are close to achieving the means (their popularity is not far behind what Nazis were when they took power).

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-far-right-afd-marks-10-years-since-its-founding/a-64607308

https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2018-04/germany-talks-experience-report-meeting/seite-2

A personal anecdote: in 2020 entertained a German visitor (who never offered up a party affiliation, but it can be inferred) for a few hours at a bar. They managed to convey all sorts of political views supporting suppression of others but stopped short of directly calling for genocide. However any reasonable conversationalist would understand what they meant. The closest thing I can think of for this in English is "dogwhistling", however I am convinced there is a better German word for it.

[-] Matombo@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

They are germanys version of "Trump with a brain"

If they come to power they will cut taxes for the rich and make everyone of the norm suffer in one way or another. But ofc they are boasting about being "the voice of the people".

And they are hypocrites, like one influential woman in this party that regulary insults the LGBT+ community and wants to ban homosexual marriage is married herself to a woman in switzerland.

[-] Cycloprolene@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] Matombo@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

They do want to let asylum seekers die at the border.

[-] Matombo@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Not yet, for the moment they are conted with making their lives worse. But ask again in 8 years or so.

[-] Matombo@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

And some of them are litteraly Nazis.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

Imagine being so privileged (and bigoted) that you can pretend to "not understand" why the richest and potentially most powerful man on the planet is openly supporting Nazis counts as news..

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