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Cattle ranchers are making less money in the US despite beef prices at an all-time high. In the meantime, Trump started importing beef from Argentina to lower beef prices, but only achieved to lower cattle prices.

Trump supporting cattle ranchers weren't happy

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 166 points 1 week ago

“I’m still a Trump supporter. I’m just not a happy Trump supporter.”

Anybody who supports trump at this point is either brainless or heartless. Stopped reason after that. That means the guy is either completely uninformed, or he should say "I'm still a pedophile sympathizer". Ergo, his opinion on the matter is completely worthless.

Seriously most of these people...ranchers especially...are sitting there like Gilles Fucking Corey yelling out "more face-eating leopards".

Y'all need to go vegetarian in protest. Or at least give up red meat. Fuck this guy and fuck his industry.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago

These people would cut their own arms off if the people they don't like would also lose a leg as a result.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I gave up red meat, it's not that hard. Honestly, I'm hoping the market will take this opportunity to come up with more decent vegan alternatives. I'd like to give meat up altogether but the products that are out there currently are pricier than red meat, ffs.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is one reason why I stepped back from veganism after like 6 years and into ovo-lacto.

The cheese alternatives, especially. You're paying top-dollar for a sub-par product made by the same Big Food conglomerates. Why give them more money for a worse product. The money still ends up in the same dirty hands, and IMO cheese is way harder to give up than meat or "other dairy". Other dairy products have come a very, very long way.

Also fate wound me up with 9 hens and I can't pass up them eggs.

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Dairy, by nature of stress-spoiling, is relatively cruelty-free. That is to say, the profit motive is harmed unless you make the cow feel stress-free. So I've never seen how milk, butter, and cheese are not vegan. We make cows happy and get good milk in return, in excess of what the calf needs. Seems like a good trade for an animal that cannot survive without humans.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Well, to have milk, the cows have to get pregnanat regularly. The calves are taken away, which is kind of traumatizing. They are often not treated well. The male calves are killed for meat. Also, despite the fact it is possible to use transgenic bacteria, cheese is still produced in many cases by adding calf stomachs as a rennet, so cheese is often not even vegetarian. The real well being of milk cows is also often not as nice as one would expect, despite the fact that stress spoiling is a thing. Turns out some stress level doesn't matter and some workers don't mind the risk and enjoy the cruelty. There have recently been some cases made public in my country, so I'm more informed then I'd like to be.

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The cow doesn't consent.

As dumb as that sounds, you have to realize that to produce milk you must first be a mother. And to keep milk coming, you gotta continue being a mother.

Only one way to turn a heifer into a cow...

Also gotta realize that modern livestock breeds (not just bovine but poultry, pork, etc) are quite removed from their wild ancestors. They are only here because we keep them here. We didn't extend the same courtesy to most of their wild ancestors.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

When a cheetah hunts a gazelle, the gazelle doesn't consent to death. When parasites infest you, you don't consent. When cows eat grass, the grass doesn't consent.

There is nearly no form of food consumption that doesn't extinguish a life or subjugate another lifeform. Until we can grow food in tubes to feed the human race, that will stay a fact of life for humans. Wild animals will continue though and that isn't something we can nor should intervene in.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure.

My main reason for doing the vegan thing for so long wasn't animal ethics...it was environmentalism and efficiency. Animal ethics came secondary, but I did come to understand the perspective.

Humanity is now able to make fully sustainable diets from non-animal sources. Some micronutrients (namely B12, D, Iron, Zinc, and Omega-3s) are difficult but not impossible to vegan-source.

I do not see a sustainable way to feed humanity going forward on an omnivorous diet. Especially not one that involves the volume of red meat that is found in a typical American diet.

However...your appeal to nature fallacy is flawed when you realize that there is nothing natural about modern agricultural livestock. You could say that an (American) slave had a better life than a person in the wilds of Africa. That obviously wouldn't be accurate...but you could say it.

It's not so much a matter of eat-or-be-eaten but one of freedom. And bovines especially...highly social creatures and incredible emotional intelligence. More than we give them credit for.

But even my hens exhibit unique "personalities" (chickenalities?), social hierarchy, even daily routines. I got one girl who, every day, I let them out, she follows me to the nesting box, checks out the situation, pecks my leg twice, then goes to her favorite dust-bath spot so the others don't get there first.

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[-] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

There are pockets of feral cattle in the world, including on Swona in Scotland, Australia, etc. So cows dont necessarily need us to survive, but we have bred things like dairy cows to such extremes that I doubt they would fare well. I do think it's debatable that dairy cows are treated well, I think it unfortunately depends a lot on which farmer they end up with and how they view livestock livelihood.

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[-] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Giles Corey wouldn't enter a plea to face an unjust trial so they tortured him to get him to enter a plea.

Giles Corey endured torture so his family would get his property

There's no correlation between "More Weight" and "More face-eating leopards"

Giles Corey was in the right, he wasn't a wizard. He fought an unjust government.

"These people" are nothing like Giles Corey

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

It could be both.

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Or at least give up red meat.

The high prices have done that for me, eating more white meat than ever.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I've mostly given up eating beef for my own personal health reasons. I won't seek it out but if a beef dish appears before me at dinner or something, then I'll have it once in a while.

Cattle prices had reached record highs throughout 2025 after years of drought dried up grazing lands and forced producers to slash the nation's herd to its smallest size in decades.

Keep on voting for climate change deniers, I'm sure it will help.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 week ago

"guy who has proved he is bad at business does a bad business deal, his supporters suffer for it. More at 11."

Some of these ranchers are family, so blinded by fear of ethnic minorities and "them damn antifuh slurs" that they can't see how their blind faith in orange man is actively hurting them. These guys are literally about to lose their ranch to a corporate firm who will almost certainly hire them again to tend it until they die at starvation wages. And when their kids refuse to take those reigns they'll bring in the very ethnic minorities those idiots are terrified to do the work instead.

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago

Loses ranch to corporation.

"Well, at least it's still owned by Republicans!"

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

"Well, at least it's still owned by ~~Republicans!~~ Chinese wealth management firms"

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[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Nebraska is a heavy red state, especially out west. those dipshits will vote red for the rest of their lives and nothing can change it. Those communities are brainwashed completely, and anyone that dare speak differently is harrased and riduculed into submission.

They voted for racism, they deserve every bit of pain they receive. But it wont matter, becuase they will still vote red. The sate is just over run with willfully ignorant, hateful, "christians".

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

those dipshits will vote red for the rest of their lives and nothing can change it

People keep saying this (or things like it), even after we just watched the 2025 mid-terms where across the board districts flipped that went for Donald in 2024.

I dunno, man. I think this is evidence that your ingrained prejudices might be wrong, but we'll see.

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I hope you are right. I would love to eat my words.

All I can do is report what i see with my own 2 eyes. The racism runs deep here and often has no opposing viewpoints in the small ranch towns on the west side of the state.

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[-] BeardededSquidward 4 points 1 week ago

More Democrats and people who were originally apathetic to politics are getting out to vote while more of the GQP supporters are staying home than usual. Trumplings are not changing their stances, and they still vote GQP til the end. The well has been heavily poisoned in certain areas of the country against anyone but Republican thugs. I find a lot of people who do not live in these areas do not understand the mentality of red until dead they take. They'd sooner vote for Satan himself than Jesus if he ran as a Democrat.

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[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Reuters spoke with a total of eight ranchers who said they still backed Trump, though he hurt prices for their cattle.

Wilful stupidity when they vote. Wilful stupidity when they reap the consequences too. You're supposed to learn something from FAFO.

Have the life you voted for.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 17 points 1 week ago

Funny, my liberal blue ass is still doing okay in my blue city. Things are more expensive but overall not much has changed for me. Personally I voted blue to help those in need, expand snap, healthcare, and benefits even though in all likelihood I won't need them.

Meanwhile they voted to "own" me, whatever that means. I don't feel owned, but as long as they feel better without those benefits I guess?

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I feel pretty owned as long as I'm paying hundreds of dollars a month for healthcare, still having to pay when I use that healthcare, and being threatened with death/lack of healthcare if I leave my job.

I thought Republicans were supposed to be about independence.

I don't have room to start my own small business unless I marry someone who can cover our healthcare.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

the same words the first time trump was in office, and did the same thing to the farmers.

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

The cult mentality is on full display whenever these folks talk about being hurt by Trump but still supporting him.

Yet add in the blue wave from the recent election, and I can’t help but wonder how much of it is bullshit said to save face, or in an attempt not to ostracize the impacted people’s stance in their local communities. In red bubbles, it’s dangerous to publically go against Dear Leader. To say so in a news article would probably cross a line. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these farmers are secretly feeling disillusioned by Trump, but feel pressured to tell people that they still like him. Like how a lot of the people, especially in the Baby Boomer generation (I noticed it a lot in my parents’ cohort, which is why I mention it) keep the label of “Christian” even though they stopped believing and don’t actively attend church services. My parents themselves won’t use the word “atheist,” but they live completely secular lives that their own parents wouldn’t recognize (if they were still around.) If they were asked, they’d say they’re Christian all the way. But in reality, it’s little more than a label that links them to their community.

Trump worship is a cult, no doubt about it. Just as members in a traditional cult find themselves surrounded by believers and pressured to play along, I bet a fair number of questioning Trump cultists only hold back from leaving because their communities are entrenched in it. They need to say, “Yeah I still support him” not because they still feel it in their hearts, but because the backlash of just saying, “His choices hurt my livelihood” would come back to haunt them both socially and materially.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I think it’s even worse; suffering for their leader is how they prove their loyalty. Now they’re even more invested in him than they ever were.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

We should be happy for them. They are getting what they voted for. Congratulations 🍾🎈🎊🎉

[-] BeardededSquidward 7 points 1 week ago
[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Theirs their MO.

Plays stupid games, wins their stupid prize, then complains about the quality of the prize. Then repeat ad nauseam.

The very definition of insanity.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember all those times Trump made a speech about America First, manufacture and produce everything at home?

His actions never match his words and everything is for sale including YOUR country.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

he uses the republican doublespeak, which supporters never could decipher.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Vote an incompetent idiot into head office, you get incompetent, idiotic leadership. Have the day you voted for.

[-] Marshezezz 20 points 1 week ago

They worship a child rapist and always will. Hopefully they’ll starve in a sewer

[-] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 week ago

They have the critical thinking skills of an 8 year old which is why Trump loves fucking them so much

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"i love the poorly educated"-trump, this includes people stupid enough to vote for him, even if they had an education.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This president is dangerous and inconvenient, but do love hating people who are different than me.

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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

As much as I love LAMF, I think it's great that some of them are waking up, even if it's only for selfish reasons, and even if they should have woken up before they voted the damn idiot in a second time.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

“I’m still a Trump supporter. I’m just not a happy Trump supporter.”

OK I take it all back.

[-] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

A tragedy in two parts

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[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

OMG what if the tobacco producers also went out of business?

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 8 points 1 week ago

I'm in shambles rn. Please no, or whatever

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

HahhahHHhahHHahahahah

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