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[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 93 points 5 months ago

It's infuriating how stupid and wrong JD Vance is.

First, "people" didn't take Kirk's life. One person did. Nobody else knew about it beforehand.

Second, we don't know exactly how the shooter identified because he hasn't said.

Third, even if he recently identified as left-wing for a year, the entire rest of his life, he was right-wing.

Fourth, a single person, acting alone, cannot be used to make conclusions about a group they are a member of. You have to know the context of the group.

Left-wing people's mainstream rhetoric is significantly less violent than right-wing people's mainstream rhetoric. That's why it's natural to assume that his actions were motivated by his right-wing upbringing, regardless of where his motivations came from.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 months ago
[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Fascists need and enemy. They’re trying to paint anyone not on their side as dangerous, to justify hurting us and dehumanize us.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

You assume he's not intentionally picking his words in order to manipulate his base for his own political benefit.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I guess you're referring to me using the word "stupid." But I am referring to the sentiment that he's expressing. It's not only wrong. It's just so obviously wrong that... let's say the average middle schooler should be able to see through it. It's just stupid.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Ah, I see what you mean now. Sadly, a significant chunk of Americans are all too willing to let a demagogue do the thinking for them.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

its also a person further right than kirk too.

[-] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 83 points 5 months ago

But he was trans!

Oh wait, I mean, his lover was trans.

Oh wait, I mean his roommate was trans.

Oh wait, surely someone was trans...?

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 24 points 5 months ago

I hear he rode on a train once. Close enough?

[-] Devworker@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Maybe he had a trans frog??

Or like the... bullets!! Yes the bullets were differently trans! How could they do this !! 😭

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 63 points 5 months ago

"take the country back" dude, you're the fucking vice president of the United States, your party controls all three branches of government and did so when Kirk was killed...you want to take the country back from yourself or something?

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

They want to purge the country not just be in control.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 13 points 5 months ago

Poor rich white men being such victims of oppression...

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago

The way that he has absolutely vanished from most media attention says that NOBODY misses Charlie Kirk. Least of all his wife.

The shooter certainly didn't miss him.

[-] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Savage 👍

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago

It's the liberals fault that Charlie wasn't racist enough and attracted the ire of the goypers.

I guess.

[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

The shooter could have been a trans communist furry and it would be a speck of dust against an overwhelming weight of evidence that the far right, through history, are responsible for severe atrocities.

[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 months ago

What radicalized me? I never got to read about the executions of all the Confederate traitors in school because we never actually punished them.

[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You can spend the rest of your life correcting their bullshit. They'll just made up more.

This cultural war is about quantity, not quality.

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 13 points 5 months ago

That kid certainly didn't miss him.

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

..at a red event. On a red campus. In a red city. In a red state.

[-] JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

Take the country back... Buddy your party had a super majority, using that phrasing under that context really just makes you sound like fascist

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago
[-] shittydwarf@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago

You heard the man

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Fuck Kirk, Fuck Vance, Fuck Trump

[-] scala@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

One down, two to go.

[-] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Allegedly. I don't believe Charlie's murder went down the way they say it did. So many questions don't have answers. And fuck JD vance.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

The evidence is even sketchier than the Luigi evidence.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

if this were a socialist/communist society, jd vance would've been in jail for reactionary speech. seriously!

[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

How does anyone takes these sad and pathetic losers seriously?

How stupid and gullible do you have to be to look up to these fucking clowns? THESE are your role models?

[-] Feadogbandit@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

The gun lobby and those funded by them? Sounds good.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

But wasn’t the kid in love with his trans roommate, and therefore not ”one of them”?

[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Even if he was, this is still taking one random person's actions and applying them to an entire population. This is also the vice president who should definitely not fucking be the one doing that shit, because statements from a leader of the nation obviously carry infinitely more weight on the national psyche and climate of violence

[-] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

If he's insinuating a violent civil war, he'll soon learn not all of us lefties are anti-gun and pacifists.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

and jd vance wants to take over TPUSA, hence why erika wants to sleep with him, because she cant do it on her own.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

ALLEGEDLY

We don't actually know that

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Were they Mormon or Christian?

[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago
[-] cristo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The definition of Christian is "one who believes in Christ" I'm aware that Christians don't want Mormons to be part of their in group, but they do believe in Christ and the Bible, so if you want them out you would have to change the fundamental definition of "Christianity". It's wild how many people don't understand the fundamental definitions of words that we all agree to use. I'm literally not asserting anything except that they believe in Christ, and religious people want to freak out about it and say no they don't? Great example of how religion is pernicious and divisive.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

All the churches that I've ever visited deny that Mormons are Christian.

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