I caught the orange man talking on the radio, as I am not american I knew it was going to be something stupid but this? I thought it was a joke, an onion like thing, but nooooo. What sealed it is when in the very speech about the new 100x battleships, trump stated that he did not know why the us stopped using battleships....
I guess nobody bothered to ask an admiral how long it took to design a new class of ship. I don't think trump has enough years left in him to see the first one built.
They just failed at the last set of ships! Can they not even finish the first failure before starting a new one?
Oh and this one is based on some sort of coastguard design, I guess that will help?
think of it this way. the trump class of battleships will be the first battleships of the 21st century to be a complete failure. that's quite a legacy.
What interesting times we live in. yay
they certainly are among the most of all times.
Mark my words, when the dust will have settled on all of this, the word "trump" will mean the opposite of what it means now, all thanks to Donald.
elect a clown get a circus, all of this is just bullshit meant to distract you from the actual christofacist powergrabs going on bts
all of this is just bullshit meant to distract you
I personally doubt this; Trump is an egotistical moron who is behind the times and doesn't like listening to any counterarguments. Battleships are cool, thus battleships are effective, and the USA was stupid to stop making them, and they should make them again, and by the way, they should slap his name on it because he's so smart and also a good military leader and better than Sleepy Joe. It doesn't need to be a distraction to exist.
a useless waste of resources, just like its namesake.
There's a very good reason why the Iowa class battleships, built during the second world war, were still firing their guns in anger during the Gulf War.
Batleships are no use against other vessels, at least not with the main guns, but they're absolutely fearsome as a shore bombardment weapon, and that's something the US may very well have a need for in the near future, particularly if China gets handsy with Taiwan or other nearby island nations.
Yeah, but even in that role they are just out done. Missile, plane or drone carriers are cheaper then maintaining, deploying and supplying a fucking battleship. If you look at the last time the Iowas fired their guns in anger you will see it was also even then found to be a massive waste of money. Also they can't be used in a place they could be sunk, so only beating up minor nations, in such case that they are not really needed.
Oh you can change the topography with 16 inch guns, sure. But bombs, missiles and now drones are better at mission kills at a fraction of the price.
I'm not so sure about that, aircraft carriers are phenomenally expensive to buy and run. Having a massive, fast vessel absolutely loaded to the gills with weapons is still a very useful thing to have.
Any modern battleship would certainly have substantial missile batteries in addition to the main guns.
Aircraft carriers are very expensive to run, about the same as a battleship actually. And the Iowas did have a modernization done that added:
And even then, they where still seen as a colossal waste of money, even vs an aircraft carrier (that can do more and is real "force projection") that was seen as more vulnerable then an aircraft carrier. That was in the 1991 and now? 34 years later? They would be the biggest waste of soon to be sunk money in modern warfare.
There's a very good reason why the Iowa class battleships, built during the second world war, were still firing their guns in anger during the Gulf War.
Because Reagan wanted a 600-ship navy without having the capacity to build enough new hulls and Congress is full of nostalgia blinded boomers who wouldn't let the navy retire them no matter how much they begged?
They can't safely do this within range of anti-ship missiles and they can't outrange those missiles with guns.
That's what your destroyer escort is for.
Ha, about that....
It's not gonna work, China can hit those ships with their hypersonic missiles.
They can hit an aircraft carrier too.
Besides, this is what a destroyer escort is for.
Suuuuure, those escorts
Firstly, yes this is colossally stupid at first glance. Trump is an egoist and an idiot, and he’d absolutely want a fleet of the biggest ships ever named after him so he can wave his tiny dick around for decades after he dies. However, I believe this is a renamed project that was already in development, not a new thing Trump wanted made. The main thing that makes this interesting to me and makes me consider why it might be more practical than the name leads on is the inclusion of a high powered laser system. With sufficient power, a naval laser could literally be the ultimate tool for naval combat and completely negate the weaknesses of a battleship style design. I’m not sure this ship will have a laser that powerful, but if it’s in the megawatt range then it could very well be essentially invulnerable to most modern aircraft and missiles. The US military even before Trump was focusing heavily on lasers in new developments as they’re likely going to define warfare in the next few decades, if not longer. There’s good reason for this, a sufficiently powerful laser could be able to destroy any unshielded aircraft or missile within seconds. The primary limiting factor for their effectiveness is getting to that power range in a portable form (which a nuclear ship solves), and turret rotation which basically limits the number of targets they can engage. One of the proposed Lockheed Martin F-47’s primary new features is an aerosol dispenser designed for laser defense, in another example of laser focused design. As silly as it is to call them battleships, this legitimately might be a decent call for a design. A fast, large ship with high power, long range guns and a laser defense system that protects it from missiles and aircraft to allow it to get in range to use those guns. If nothing else, it’s a big platform for missiles and has a decent gun for shore bombardment purposes. I think 100 of them might be crazy, though.
Edit: OK this thing is gas turbine powered and the lasers are 300-600kw in power, plus they’ve almost certainly picked a shitty wavelength for ocean operations so I think this thing is going to be a budget black hole for 3 years and then (hopefully) when Trump doesn’t get elected again it’ll be cancelled and we might get a real set of frigates or destroyers instead.
He's like a Star Trek villain. He's gonna hide the ~~augments~~ Epstein files in the torpedoes.
The wooden juggernaut The Trump Donald Class was just announced to the apparent pleasure of the geriatric president. He asked if it delivered food and if Obama had had one.
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Hey, look, it's the USS Oppositional Defiant.
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