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China's banned memory-maker CXMT unveils surprising new chipmaking capabilities despite crushing US export restrictions — DDR5-8000 and LPDDR5X-10667 displayed (www.tomshardware.com)
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[-] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 hours ago

Despite some seeing my doubts as anti China, I am more feeling cautious as there has been a history of over promising and under delivering. I hope this changes as the world really does need a serious competitor as the USA is in a capitalist death spiral at the moment and it would be nice to have other options. I hope Europe too can step it up too as it will suck if we end up in a situation where China or any single nation is once again the sole provider of anything required for the modern age. Competition is healthy or we end up with too much power on one place and that never ends well even for those with the power.

[-] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, okay, China.

How about produce the thing and don't pull any marketing tricks, hm? We'll find out one way or another whether these are the real deals.

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

I'll believe it when I see it. Lots of news of supposed breakthroughs in China all the time but hardly any of it actually leads to anything concrete so far.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

deepseek? their EV cars that are ahead of whatever Americans are making?

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

DeepSeek was frankly oversold (people were making a big fuss about how it's better than others in every way but it was only more efficient and while I think that's notable, it was a far cry from what was being reported) and I personally don't think we should be investing that much time and energy in LLMs anyways. I'll give them that for EVs but they easily cost 2x of a standard ICE Japanese car here since China companies seem to be targeting the luxury car market so it didn't occur to me at all.

Not sure why you even brought up American cars to be honest.

That said, I was thinking more of semiconductors and there's been so much news of Huawei doing all sorts of things that have went nowhere so far.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 40 points 13 hours ago

On the one hand not fond of the CCP, and this is a step toward making Taiwan more "safely" invadeable.

On the other hand not fond of the United States throwing its weight around like it's in charge of the world and not fond of monopolies in general.

So hard to settle on a reaction for this.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 points 12 hours ago

of the United States throwing its weight around like it’s in charge of the world

After telling everyone they're not the police of the world

[-] Rug_Pisser@piefed.zip 7 points 8 hours ago

Wait no, I saw the documentary about a Team from America being the World Police!

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

Detach from the geopolitics - another way to make memory has been announced at a time when much of the technology and product has been tied up by massive global investments. This could help ease the current memory drought. Will it still be around after the AI bubble pops? This fabrication process could be like fracking - an expense only justified by the current high cost of supply. Is it worth investing in if the bubble pops and kills any gains, evaporating the money sunk into it? Does China and the 1% want to take the risk that this new fab process works and scales? That's the real stakes.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Yeah, this is the correct take, I feel.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

The RoC doesn't make much RAM, to my knowledge. It's the RoK that does that. Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix all have their own fabs.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 8 hours ago

Ah, good, that makes this less of a dilemma then.

[-] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, this is a bit of a dilemma, to be sure.

[-] j4k3@piefed.world 18 points 12 hours ago

Awesome. As an American consumer, China is doing far more for me than the corrupt USA.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago

Exploitative sweatshop labour pays dividends for us westerners, doesn't it?

[-] j4k3@piefed.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Better than a million feral humans sent back to live as animals in urban nature and corrupt wage slavery for pirate banker commodity housing, not to mention the Flock-You surveillance state that is stealing citizenship and democracy right now. When Citizen is functionally equivalent to Slave, China looks far better. "You will own nothing and be happy about it." -because slaves that speak up find themselves dead. I'll take a sweatshop over this corruption any day.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 12 points 9 hours ago

Nearly everything you mentioned there could be said about China as well though. So, how? In what way does it make China look better? Serious question. And not a defense of the west out the US.

[-] ragica@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

There is a general perception now with many in the US and even more among the US's partners that the US government is now actively regressive, making life more difficult for most of its citizens and partners, and indeed the world. China, despite its shortcomings, is mostly seen as making progress at raising living standards, moving more towards being environmentally responsible, and as a stable and predictable partner.

Whatever the complicated on the ground realities, these are some of the ways that make China currently seem to look better too many. Since you ask.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 4 points 4 hours ago

In tank space sure. But not in any non-hypocrical space. Again everything you implied about China could be said about the US.

However, it was industrialization brought up living standards. Not any particular party or ideology. In every different government and economic system industrialization has been pushed, it has benefited the population. And industrialization doesn't make up for the oppression and abuses that said parties or ideologies commit while industrializing.

The fact that industrialization raised the standard of living in the US doesn't justify their theft of my ancestors land or culture. Or the enslavement of blacks. It certainly doesn't excuse or justify China's oppression or cultural erasure of the uhygers. Tibetans or Hong Kongers as well. If you think it does or deny their abuse you're just a hypocrite. 🤷

[-] hushable@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

greetings from Kansas province

[-] VeganCheesecake 3 points 8 hours ago

That building looks kinda like a stick of ram from the front.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

Probably cost as much as a stick of RAM to build

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Not on Alibaba today. Even if they need to bin many at slower speed, it could help with memory market. Needs actual production instead of press releases.

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