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Mozilla is in a tricky position. It contains both a nonprofit organization dedicated to making the internet a better place for everyone, and a for-profit arm dedicated to, you know, making money. In the best of times, these things feed each other: The company makes great products that advance its goals for the web, and the nonprofit gets to both advocate for a better web and show people what it looks like. But these are not the best of times. Mozilla has spent the last couple of years implementing layoffs and restructuring, attempting to explain how it can fight for privacy and openness when Google pays most of its bills, while trying to find its place in an increasingly frothy AI landscape.

Fun times to be the new Mozilla CEO, right? But when I put all that to Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, the company’s just-announced chief executive, he swears he sees opportunity in all the upheaval. “I think what’s actually needed now is a technology company that people can trust,” Enzor-DeMeo says. “What I’ve seen with AI is an erosion of trust.”

Mozilla is not going to train its own giant LLM anytime soon. But there’s still an AI Mode coming to Firefox next year, which Enzor-DeMeo says will offer users their choice of model and product, all in a browser they can understand and from a company they can trust. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

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[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Can it be disabled?

will offer users their choice [...] “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.”

it could be worse

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 42 points 15 hours ago

Programs are like socks, once they get dirty, you change them. Do these people really not understand how this stuff works? Even giants can fall when enough people switch to other options

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 13 points 15 hours ago

Oh ya? Where u gonna go? Chrome?

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago
[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Wouldn't trust waterfox as far as I could throw a bull elephant.

Librefox or fuck even floorp is better then waterfox.

[-] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Why? Just curious

[-] lando55@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago

You could always go Safari, at the rate Apple is going with Ai integration you should be good for... well forever really 🤣

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago

Safari is only available on Apple hardware and operating systems though

[-] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago
[-] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 9 hours ago

Can it survive if Firefox goes down?

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 5 points 9 hours ago

Ofc No. But waterfax might disable ai by default.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

There are literally dozens of browser options out there.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Most of which are just chrome in a trench coat.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 13 points 14 hours ago

Hell no. For now just gonna switch to some firefox fork that won't include the AI.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Jumping to the dingy tied to the sinking ship.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

Thus the "for now"

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[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 17 points 15 hours ago

Why do they keep going all in on AI when no one wants it?

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 hours ago

Power users don’t want it.

Regular users say they don’t want it but actions don’t lie. They love AI. They love the slop. They just don’t want to be reminded that that’s what it is.

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[-] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

But why? Be unique! Don't just do what everyone else does!

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

Given what Microsoft is smoking these days, no AI would be a selling point, and Mozilla does not seem to realize they are playing with fire. Their userbase chose their product instead of using the system defaults of Chrome, Safari, and Internet Exploder. Their users, just like Lemmy, are tech-litrrate and more socially concious than the masses. If an alternative or fork appears, with sufficent support, and Mozilla does not put the breaks on their AI train, were all just going to jump ship. We do it every time a new OS is installed, there is no Firefox loyalty, only lesser evils.

[-] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

It's hard to imagine being so butthurt at a piece of now-defunct, 20-year-old software that you pretend it still is the default just so you can call it a dumb name.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I was in the trenches for that nonsense fixing stuff daily because of them. Oracles wacky tacky shit that kept their users locked to Java 7.21 for a decade past the support date. Bloated language packs and not being able to keep up with basic HTML tags... You dont know how good yall have it today.

I dont care how much MS dresses up Edge, we know its just Chrome in a poorly fitted suit. The old addage still holds true, Microsofts default browser (formerly IE, currently Edge) is the best browser to use to go download another browser.

[This concludes grumpy old tech speech]

[-] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I can absolutely get behind hating oracle. Not only was oracle always evil, they also prop java which is terrible. And now the family has gotten into MAGA propaganda. It's an awful family and company and product.

IE hasn't been a thing for like a decade though. The war is over. You won. You're safe now.

I disagree with your description of edge though. It's more like the evil version of inspector gadget. Like if he was corrupted by the oracle corporation and every gadget was turned nefarious. This kinda breaks down because chrome is also evil but whatever I still think it works.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I like that reference, im stealing it.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 7 points 13 hours ago

I was hopeful for thundermail.

Not any more, seeing that.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 36 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Mozilla is completely detached from its user base. They think their average user is a Microsoft enthusiast when in reality it's a Debian enjoyer.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Who is this a signal for though? They could silently add the AI features and rally their base on aspects people actually like. It's almost like Firefox doesn't want to succeed

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

CEOs have this massive psychosis, they really believe everyone wants this bullshit. I have a theory that it's because they were always surrounded by yesmen, and simultaneously they hate people, so for them the LLM is the best thing ever, all the constant agreeing and affirmation with no pesky humanity, and they can't believe there is anyone who don't want that.

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