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[-] PrivateOnions@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago

When people say oh firefox performance is like so intolerably bad that they HAVE to use a chromium based browser, I always wonder what device people are using and how many things they got going on in the background. I don't understand why ANYONE would need to have like 200 tabs open at once and even if Firefox is slower loading source heavy stuff by like a second, I think that is a sacrifice worth making.

Personally Firefox has been perfectly fine for me even when Im running it on a Win 11 virtual machine on top of Linux that also has Firefox with 10 tabs open and like five other applications in the background on a very mid range laptop.

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I do that (100+ tabs open at any given time) due to my work (research tends to take up a ton of windows) and because I'm too scatterbrained to focus on a single thing at once, but even then I find that Firefox is really good and arguably better than Chrome. Maybe Chrome has improved since I switched over, but Firefox uses significantly less resources than the Chrome that I remember

[-] hare_ware@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago

I have ~800 tabs open in Firefox, no real issues unless I flip through all of them or Tab Groups shuffles them all around. My desktop until recently was over a decade old and the new one is barely any faster.

[-] PrivateOnions@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Jesus fucking christ I get uncomfortable having 30 tabs open at times I can not imagine 800

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[-] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I have actually always found Firefox to perform better. Especially compared to the RAM whore, Chrome.

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[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People really got to learn how to use Bookmark All Tabs... properly.

If you're in the middle of something and you got to switch to something else, organize all the tabs to separate windows, and use Bookmark All Tabs... to Saved Sessions folder or whatever you want to name it. This will allow each window to be saved individually. Save it with a date and at topic name, like "20230625 Bread maker" then close the window.

I have a fear of crashing Firefox, restore failing, and losing all my tabs. This fixes most of that.

Using the Bookmark All Tabs... method has help me organize my tabs, makes syncing with devices easier, and has allowed me to keep browsing sessions completely off my mind until I need them again.

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[-] buxtonwater@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago

Firefox supremacy! Keep the non-chromiuim branch alive forevermore, no centralization please.

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[-] blotz@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

What's with all these comments saying Firefox is slow!? I've never noticed FF slowing down? I also can't find anything online particularly damning (they all are pretty close in scores. No massive performance numbers for one or the other). I thought this was just a common misconception. Can anyone explain?

[-] Geth@vlemmy.net 16 points 1 year ago

People complain about Firefox performance and site compatibility all the time and I have no idea what they are talking about. I use both it and other browsers all the time and Firefox for me is the better one.

[-] buxtonwater@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

It is a common misconception, they perform functionally identical across multiple PC's and updates. People are just slow to change their minds.

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[-] amir_s89@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Also browsing the web with the uBlock Origin installed, will signifiy improve the speed. Meanwhile protect you from various bad stuff, adds being nonexistent. :)

Check this app & also tick all the boxes within its Settings.

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[-] therealmdubbs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

I used to to think the android mobile app was slow. It's gotten allot better though. Now that it supports uBlock I think it's the best browser for Android.

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[-] void_hunter@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

first of all, this meme gets posted a lot. second, but more importantly, the format should be reversed. in this scene of the film, Peter Parker sees clearly without glasses, and blurred with glasses, coz he's been bitten and his eyesight is restored. /flies away

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[-] CIWS-30@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

This is why I use Firefox. I honestly don't think that a browser engine monopoly is good for the world. Single point of failure for everyone with no alternatives is very bad if something nasty happens.

I think the creators of WINE said something similar about one of their reasons for creating WINE. Wish more browsers would use Gecko.

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[-] Smk@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I still remember version 2 of Firefox. It was an awesome feeling to install. Even today, just using Firefox still feels like I'm doing to right thing.

[-] smartwater0897@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I think there is nothing like it. It's not perfect but it's damn good still.

[-] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 27 points 1 year ago

I love Firefox

[-] faltuuser@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

This the 97th time I am seeing this meme.

[-] qisope@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

a little more work and you can make it to 100! keep going, you can do it!

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[-] ionaru@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion, brace yourselves.

As a web developer, I would love to root for Firefox but they've made some really odd decisions regarding the implementation of web standards (which are published on the Mozilla MDN site, oddly enough), async/defer script loading order for example. Firefox is also often multiple years late with implementing new tech, being surpassed by Chromium and even Safari most of the time.

While I love the non-profit style of Mozilla and think competition in the browser space is a good thing. The reality is just that their browser lags behind the other two. Firefox is a large part of the reason polyfills are still used in this world of evergreen browsers, and requires multi-browser testing/tweaking even though I exclusively follow the standards written on the MDN website...

[-] adriaan@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Yeah it lags behind because Chromium is developed by Google, which is the 4th biggest company in the world. And Safari is obviously from Apple which is the largest company in the world. I don't think the fact that Mozilla lags behind should upset anyone. The fact they can compete at all is impressive I think.

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[-] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

I see it the other way around. I have a feeling that FireFox follows the specs while Chromium kind of has its own plan and directly introduce new behavior without much care for standards.

Since Chromium based browsers have the majority of the market share, you have the feeling that FireFox is awkward/lag behind. Now look back at Opera when they still have their own engine and you will see that while they try to introduce new behaviors just like Chromium, their limited market share means that people don't feel the need to make use of these "innovations".

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[-] CrateDane@feddit.dk 26 points 1 year ago

Firefox is behind in some areas, but ahead in others - eg. privacy/tracking.

[-] tartarsauce@lemmy.fmhy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

exactly, and that's what matters more than anything else. modern websites are insanely bloated anyway; i care more about blocking the 50MB of ads, trackers, third-party cookies and other garbage every site shoves down your throat, than shiny new stuff that arguably is often part of that overengineered bloat.

look at this. it's fucking beautiful. as far as i'm concerned, websites like these put the modern web and web developers to shame.

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[-] average650@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Edge used to be unique,but then they just copied chromium.... It had much smaller scrolling which was great on touch screens. Now I have no reason to use it.

[-] siriusmart@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

opera also used to maintain their own browser engine if i remembered correctly, but they all just dipped

[-] DrBluefall@vlemmy.net 12 points 1 year ago

Opera did have its own engine; it was a proprietary one named Presto.

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[-] buycurious@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

“Wait, it’s all Chrome?”

“Always has been 🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀🌌”

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[-] tarneo@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Librewolf, icecat, qutebrowser, iceraven, surf... are not chromium-based.

[-] cowmouse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Qutebrowser is chromium-based, and barely anyone uses icecat since the modern web heavily relies on JS, iceraven is a Firefox for Android fork, which could maybe have like 50 users and librewolf is unusable for daily usage because of RFP (resist fingerprinting worsens a lot of sites that rely on canvas). (This is just my opinion)

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[-] supermurs@suppo.fi 14 points 1 year ago

Firefox 🥰

[-] CapnAssHolo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Honest question. What's wrong with chromium? I understand why google/ms and other corpo flavours are bad, but why is base chromium bad

[-] sussy_gussy@wirebase.org 49 points 1 year ago

The problem is the lack of diversity. Google controls Chromium and almost all browsers are Chromium based so Google controlls the supported web features of almost all browsers, giving them the power to decide which web features are supported on the internet and which aren't. They use this for example to push their own file formats for the web instead of better alternatlives. Remember when everyone was mad that ublock origin wouldn't work on Chromium browsers anymore? Same thing. They get money from ads so they make it harder to block them. Google shouldn't have that much power over the web.

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[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One big life-changing thing will be something like Manifest V3, limiting ad-blockers capabilities. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation

Rules for thee and not for me kind of stance when it comes to who is collecting all the sweet data from its users, it wont be possible to block every tracker and ad from Google in the future because every add-on will have a limit of how many domains they are trying to block.

I mean what could possibly go wrong if the biggest data collector and ad provider has a monopoly on web browser?

Why is it bad to use chromium base browsers? If the market is essentially only Chromium and Safari, Firefox compatibility will be even less important and broken sites will only lead to a bigger monopoly because users will switch.

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[-] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 11 points 1 year ago

I love when the meme is used correctly.

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[-] Antik@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know why, but even on my machine which gets 40-60 FPS in FFXIV while simultaneously encoding a movie, Firefox was always slower than chromium browsers.

I truly don't understand it.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

It's web builders deliberately building their sites and webapps for chromium based browsers only, because it has over 80% market share. They only test on firefox rudimentally. The experience is subpar and people use chromium instead because of it, cementing chromium as the most used browser. Some site builders do this because they don't have the time to extensively test a browser with low market share, others, like Google, do it deliberately.

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[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Depends on what sites you are using, google sites are slower for me, others are faster.

Also looks like chrome is better at looking faster somehow, probably starts to render page sooner.

And of course: wgich extensions do you have in firefox and how old is your profile. Try it out with new, clean profile and than you will feel it.

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[-] ekZeno@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE.👍

I've switched to Firefox 2 years ago and I never missed Chrome since. Out of curiosity I've tried Opera GX a week ago only to find out that it is basically another chromium skin. Honestly I'm quite worried by the lacking of alternatives. 🦊 Be Strong Foxy✊️

Meanwhile on iOS, bottom image is all Safari.

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