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Meta sparks privacy fears after unveiling $299 Smart Glasses with hidden cameras: ‘You can now film everyone without them knowing’::These stylish shades may look like a regular pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers, but they're actually Meta's new Smart Glasses, complete with two tiny cameras and speakers implanted in the arms. The wearable tech was unveiled by Mark Zuckerberg Wednesday at the 2023 Meta Connect conference in Menlo Park, California, sparking a frenzy online.

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[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 143 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember when Google glasses came out, people got assaulted for wearing them

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-francisco-woman-says-she-was-attacked-for-wearing-google-glass/

Her Facebook post 💀

“OMG so you’ll never believe this but… I got verbally and physically assaulted and robbed last night in the city, had things thrown at me because of some ---- Google Glass haters,” Slocum posted to Facebook.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 69 points 1 year ago

Several bars in my city banned people wearing them.

[-] briongloid@aussie.zone 22 points 1 year ago

Venues will just need to implement infrared checks at the door.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

A simple solution would be to have a red led that displays when recording like video cameras

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

The fix for that is a Sharpie or electrical tape, like all other LED's you want to hide.

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[-] erwan@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

The Meta smart glasses have a LED, and they claim to detect when it's covered and asked the user to clear it (not activating the camera) when it's the case.

But honestly, there are already devices to record people without their consent. Just go to AliExpress and you'll find devices that don't even bother adding a LED (because the whole point of the device is stealth filming).

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[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 33 points 1 year ago

The trick is now you can’t tell. Should it be illegal? Heck yes. Will it? “Hmm … technology, so important … innovation.. privacy is dead anyway …. terrorism prevention.. “

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Should it be illegal?

In the US, it's been long held people do not have the "expectation of privacy" while out in public. One of the major issues that you've kinda touched on is how would it be enforced? So are you opposed to all forms of recording? Or is this more focused on a corporation potentially gathering data on people just by being in public where someone is wearing these?

[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 27 points 1 year ago

IMO expectation of privacy is valid, but I believe people should also have the right to reasonably know if they're being recorded. Recording people in public's one thing if you have your phone out and are waving it around pointing it at people, but it's a whole other thing if it's a concealed or otherwise hidden recording device.

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Why should it be illegal?

It’s perfectly legal to photograph strangers in public. You’re in public you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.

I don’t see people assaulting CCTV cameras for instance.

Sure some weirdos might I use it for nefarious reasons but if it didn’t exist they would still be weirdos using something else.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago

People wear their glasses everywhere, including a variety of places where there is an expectation of privacy or where it is otherwise prohibited to record. Places where you would not be allowed to hold up your phone or camera and take photos.

The introduction of tech that makes it impossible to distinguish between someone minding their own business and someone recording you demands a change to the legal framework. It doesn't make sense to hold to laws that were written for an entirely different scenario.

I don’t see people assaulting CCTV cameras for instance

I've seen that fairly often, particularly around political protests, and I've never seen a CCTV camera in a public bathroom, locker room, etc.

This tech is an inevitability and the potential legitimate uses are too valuable to ban it outright. But that doesn't mean it should be treated exactly like a highly-visible camera or cell phone.

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[-] Zak@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

A quick search on Amazon for "spy camera" finds a bunch of devices small enough to easily conceal inside clothing, built in to pens, and built in to watches. A search for "spy camera glasses" finds exactly that, and most of them are well under $300. We're already well into the era of being able to film everyone without them knowing.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

They aren’t directly connected to a social network and promoted with vast marketing resources however.

I remember playing with one of these about 10 years ago that looked like a car key fob, it recorded somewhat subpar footage in a weird format to a microSD card. A neat novelty but not very practical to use unless you really had a need to do covert surveillance of something, which most people don’t.

However if it’s made to be effortless to push watchable footage to social media, and people are heavily encouraged and incentivised to do so and it’s a different proposition.

[-] pazukaza@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

I think it is just a matter of convenience. Very few people buy lasers to aim them at airplanes. Give everyone a laser and you'll get a thousand reports of people aiming lasers at their plane.

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[-] But_Class_War@midwest.social 100 points 1 year ago

"They trust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg

Always good to keep in mind

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Alt headline: Dude with boundary issues makes least surprising glasses ever

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hidden cameras? They've got big ol fuckin cameras on them and apparently a red LED that lights up when in use lol. It'd be easier to secretly film someone by pretending you're texting on your phone. More ragebait.

[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

You seriously think it wouldn't be trivial to disable the LED?

And by the time you notice the LED you've already been filmed.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Buddy, have you been on Aliexpress recently? It's trivial to wire tiny cameras all over your body if you really wanted.

Not that it matters, I can point an 8K cinema camera at you in public, and you don't legally get a say.

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[-] jackalope@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

It would be trivial to just buy spy cameras already built for spying. The tech already exists

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[-] LadyAutumn 58 points 1 year ago

I miss when CCTV was a world ending privacy concern. Its gotten so much worse in the last decade.

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[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

Incredibly funny to see the NY Post pretend that these glasses were just now "unveiled". This line of camera-equipped glasses has been around for 2 years now.

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[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 44 points 1 year ago

You're being filmed everywhere you go and you probably don't even know it.

[-] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Doesn't make it ok.

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[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Not a thing was learned from Google Glass huh? Alrighty then.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I almost like the idea of augmented reality with similar tech. I'd love it if I could look down the street and see historic photos of building overlaid perfectly.

The issue isn't the technology, it's the people who are supplying it and it's connection to the Internet and sharing. I don't trust Google and I don't trust Meta.

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[-] weew@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just saying, hidden cameras have been a thing long before the internet was invented

[-] rDrDr@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

Bad people doing bad things is nothing new.

But these things allow good, otherwise well-intentioned, people, to become unwitting moles for Meta.

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[-] SMT42@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago
[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

NYPost is right wing trash.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine being friends or even acquaintances with a person who would want to live stream their POV as a day to day activity.

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[-] EstT@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

‘You can now film everyone without them knowing’ Implying that we dont already have cameras always with us, and can perfectly do that.

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[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

NYPost.

come on now

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

My cyberpunk future of me using a full head mask every time I'm out in public is getting closer.

[-] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 17 points 1 year ago

Black mirror vibes

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago
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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

I predict a uptick in assault and battery when people start recognizing these and get sick of them being used in public

[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Downvote all news corpse articles

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

So this is just an ad, huh.

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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
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This is what's coming on the AR headsets that will eventually replace phones. Soon, if you're in public, you WILL be recorded by someone without your knowledge, and probably you already have been. There is no privacy in public areas, get used to it.

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[-] shasta@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

So will they just not work in 2 party consent states?

[-] Patquip@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Clearly the smart glasses wearer will just wear a shirt that outlines their TOS and that by interacting with them, you agree to be recorded.

[-] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Meh, I assume I’m always on camera anywhere I’m in public. I don’t like it and I really don’t want to be recorded. I’m also realistic and understand that public spaces are… well public.

I understand privacy fears because there’s nothing stopping someone in my private space from recording me now other than mutual respect and consent. If all it takes is the ease of use of some fashionable frames then it’s time to rethink your relationships.

This also applies to semi-private spaces. So think at the office or a cozy booth in a coffee shop. Assume all public places are recorded (because they often are) and establish boundaries within your relationships.

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