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Introducing Raspberry Pi 5
(www.raspberrypi.com)
Can’t wait to not be able to order one.
Doesn't sound like the 'cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on' that the original Pi used to be. It is not as cheap and a power hungry beast, still small, though. More and more like a PC and less and less a small cheap embedded platform. For some people it is a plus (I guess for most people here), for some not so much.
I tend to build my projects on Raspberry Pi Pico now, but sometimes I would need something more powerful and Raspberry Pi 5 will be too much.
The project goal has never been a 'cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on'. The whole point of the project is to build a small cheap PC to give away to school children to increase computer literacy, while making it attractive enough for normal people to buy to fund the charity side
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Isn't the Pi 3B still available for that kind of job?
If you can find a new one. They are $45+ on ebay used. None of the usual US sellers has any.
I just noticed on rpilocator that there are a couple US sellers who have RPi4-1GB boards in stock for $35. I might have to try and snag one since my Kodi device has been acting up lately.
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I'm not sure I'd call 5 watts "power hungry."
I’ve used pine64 boards for this. They have a few more options and are always available.
You can buy beelink small form factor pcs from Amazon for around $150 with cases and power supplies included.
But...he said that it's not as cheap as it used to be and too power hungry and you propose an 150$ PC?
I’m agreeing with them. By the time you buy the Pi 5, and all the add-ons you need, it’s going to rival these SFF systems with full x86 Intel chips with efficiency cores.
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Sold by a scalper near you five seconds after it's sold out at launch
Was able to get rpi3bs easy...4 drops...never saw one that wasn't overpriced scalped shit.
4s were pretty easy to find pre 2020, I bought one at launch and 2 more before the pandemic hit and I never paid more than MSRP for any of them.
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At $80 a pop, might get more oomph from an older optiplex if electricity cost isn’t too big of a concern?
That display out will be hard to match with an old optiplex or laptop, but I agree, the pricing is getting less absurdly low and more just moderately low.
To be fair, I'm guessing the majority of Pi's are used headless anyway. Plus even the older Optiplexes have DVI, which is just HDMI without the audio or fancy stuff like ARC. Won't be getting 4K or anything, but still a very good video output and IMO adequate for almost all use cases.
I'm betting a decent amount of them are used as media PCs. The x265 decoding, 4kx60hz output, 2x speed ram and better wifi are much appreciated for that application.
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It's $60..... Nobody here is reading the damn article lol
$80 for its 8GB
It seems like people really aren't reading the article.
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Not to mention a used PC is upgradable and can run proxmox
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| IoT | Internet of Things for device controllers |
| NVMe | Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage |
| PCIe | Peripheral Component Interconnect Express |
| PoE | Power over Ethernet |
| RPi | Raspberry Pi brand of SBC |
| SATA | Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage |
| SBC | Single-Board Computer |
| SSD | Solid State Drive mass storage |
8 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 9 acronyms.
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Thank you friendly robot :) I couldn't stop assuming PoE meant Pillars of Eternity! 😅
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Don't go for a Pi. They don't run stock Linux anyway.
I would get a board from pine64. There are also plenty of other options that are cheaper
Used mini PCs are also an option
Define "stock Linux."
I guess he means that raspberry pi doesn't run a mainline kernel
Precisely. You can't just boot up any arm image
This is true with ARM in general. There's no "standard Linux" to boot because every board needs its own device tree and set of core kernel modules for detecting important things like local storage. It's fairly intractable due to how different the hardware is.
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They can, just need correct drivers. We have mainline Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu for them now.
Since switching my server to an x86 based platform, I'm not jumping back to arm any time soon. Maybe some day
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I wonder why they didn’t add usb-c
Power is USB-C, but the ports aren't because most PC accessories are still USB-A
I've been eyeing an Orange Pi 5+ for my RPi4 upgrade
think I may stick with that route, but glad to see RPi putting out another model.
My experience with RPis over the years was that the multimedia was way better supported than alternatives, but for self hosting that's not really relevant for me (headless, and don't really care about transcoding).
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Never got over social-media-a**hole-gate.
Out of curiosity is there an equivalent SBC to this new 5 model out there?
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Will it be able to run Jellyfin with 4K content?
I’m running Emby with 4k content from an Odroid HC-2. If you have a 4k TV it should support the H.265 codec without transcoding so the resources for sending videos is low.
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One of the most exciting additions to the Raspberry Pi 5 feature set is the single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface.
~~IIUC PCIe2.0x1 means 0.5GB/s, which is slower than USB 2 (I'm talking USB 2 specs - no idea how USB actually performs in PIs). I can't wait for people to buy that NVME hat and mount WD Blacks on that :)~~ READ BELOW
USB 2 is 480 Mb/s, not 480 MB/s. 480 Mb/s is 60 MB/s, so the 500 MB/s from PCIe 2.0 x1 is quite a bit faster and is about the limit of what a SATA 3 interface could do. Also, sequential throughput isn't nearly as important as most people think. Random IO, which NVMe drives excel at, will make a far more noticeable impact on real world performance.
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