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Eh … now you don’t know what to think huh? 🤔🤪😆

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 minutes ago

When I say I want zero trade with the US it includes ICE.

Though if these were subject to a safety recall I wouldn’t complain.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

We’ll take your money fascists, but I don’t like that we’re enabling ICE either.

[-] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 6 points 3 hours ago

Hey, fuck you Canada!

I'm a US citizen, and I've seen a lot of canadians complain about the US. But its my turn now. You are helping enable fascism. So fuck you.

That is all.

[-] sixpaque@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Last time I did research for my blog, there were three armoured vehicle manufacturers in the Toronto area, and highly respected by the world community. That information only surprised people living in Canada.

[-] NebulaNymph@programming.dev 8 points 7 hours ago

Why not include the company name? We should be publicly shaming any companys supporting the facist regime nextdoor

Roshel (also known as Roshel Defence Solutions) is a Canadian defense manufacturer specializing in the design, integration, and production of combat-proven armored vehicles; Headquartered in Brampton, Ontario

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Roshel

The original Hebrew name derives from the word "rahel," meaning "ewe" or female sheep

Also yes the founder and owner is Israeli.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

It's included as the third bullet point in the summary.

[-] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 20 points 13 hours ago

Dear Canada,

Please don't.

Sincerely,

-Every American

[-] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Our PM is a feckless neoliberal stooge…Banker. He's basically a northern Democrat…or a bit to the right.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 hours ago

He doesn't seem feckless to me.

[-] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

You kidding?

Buddy was elected to “save” us from Polieve’s conservatism and MAGA…and has been the single most destructive force to the fabric of Canada in modern history. He’s cutting deeper than any conservative could ever hope to, as is he privatizing and outsourcing profits.

Just because our (small L) liberals went back to sleep after they think they averted a disaster doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

The worst part is conservatives have no idea how good they have it and they’re treating him like he’s Chairman Mao. It’s Paul Martin all over again.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

The conservatives are pissed of because he’s drinking their milkshake. The electorate moved rightward (Justin Trudeau fatigue) and he moved with them, elbowing the Conservative Party further to the right into unelectable fringe la la land.

The Liberal party has a history of making these rightward shifts. It’s why they’re called “Canada’s Natural Governing Party.” They have no real ideological base, they just see which way the wind is blowing and go that way.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago

I got downvoted to hell every time I pointed out he's a globalist banker. I even had someone condescendly "explain" that he's a central banker which is somehow better

[-] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Well, there is a large difference between running national economies and running actual banks.

…but what you said is an apt criticism because Carney is a Stephen Harper era conservative banker…and his interim job was working in the ultra capitalist banking system. His economic policy, very broadly speaking, is designed to promote the private banking system…rather than increase social health…like a Yanis Veroufakis type economist from the same era.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

and has been the single most destructive force to the fabric of Canada in modern history. He’s cutting deeper than any conservative could ever hope to, as is he privatizing and outsourcing profits.

Lol no. Have you actually been following the policy, and what the Conservatives are suggesting instead?

He's definitely moved things to the center (it was a change election, PP would have won otherwise), but on the US file he's doing about as well as anyone could hope for, and hasn't actually cut much - literally just civil servants. All the social programs are fine. Meanwhile PP's life's mission is to kill the CBC.

Most of the carbon tax is still there. There's a new housing program. He just tricked Alberta into raising it's carbon tax. And it goes on.

[-] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

“Hasn’t cut much?” He’s cut everything. Of course the conservatives have been forced to promise deeper cuts than the Liberals because the Liberals occupied all their policy positions.

No, cancelling taxes, cutting government across the board, putting the private sector in charge of housing and privatizing pipelines isn’t “moving to the centre”.

Guessing you’re a Liberal…because you’re repeating their PR.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Literally, it's just public servants. Read the damn budget - or a summary of the damn budget - if you actually care about the truth.

I could point out the gaps in the plan there are, to prove I'm not shilling, but I'm guessing you'd just see that grace as weakness. I have better things to do than that kind of exchange.

[-] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I’m not sure what you mean by “just public servants”. I mean…that’s not true…but, yes, austerity governments tend to salivate when they look at salaries as a line-item, and cut labour…because it’s the biggest and bluntest instrument you can show cuts with. But less people means less services - as well as less citizens making a decent wage means a lower bar for the industry. Just take housing…promises promises on units…but actual cuts to the ministry of housing…and his plan, by all appearance, is to infuse the private sector with tax dollars, offload services to the private sector, and provide bubble protection to its investors: when these government jobs are transferred to the private sector, they will come with wage reductions, reduced labour protections, much less transparency and accountability, less customer service, and more AI & automation. With additional cuts to veterans affairs and the CRA (all seeing the same effect as staff cuts do Canadian labour health)…this budget would be indistinguishable from a conservative budget…if it weren't for the deep 10-15% cuts (I predict those will expand as they get drunk on how it makes their budgets look), which sets it “above” (below!) conservative budgets.

When I said you were speaking like a liberal it was in response to “tricking” Alberta into increasing the carbon tax. The only time I’ve seen the lead buried that deeply is in LPC press material and from its surrogates. Because, as we’ve seen in conservative projects, the perversely named “Build Canada Act” is an “abundance” act that removes environmental/indigenous consultation and regional sovereignty….all while privatizing the project. Yes, there’s lip service and no concrete plan to share royalties with the indigenous lands they pillage - an excellent way to drive a wedge between the IA councils and hereditary councils. There’s always been a form of taxation on tar sands exports..so describing the deal that they worked out (what amounts to an updated royalties deal - it’s dubious the math will math into an increase for Canada) as “tricking” Alberta is just incorrect. Canada is paying for a gift to Alberta and the private sector, for very little return…is the accurate headline.

Trudeau, for as much of a neoliberal as he was, traded boutique service expansions off with his private-public partnerships. Trudeau wanted to increase the capital gains tax and nationalize a pipeline. Trudeau had pet projects like equity and safe drinking water. Trudeau was still nudging Canada right, at large - but at least it wasn’t a disaster. Describing Carney as moving Canada toward the centre is absurd, considering what he’s actually doing. All of Trudeaus trade-offs and pet projects are gone…and it’s all austerity and cynicism now. If these are our supposed liberals…wait til we see how the party in waiting has to reposition themselves to the right of them: yea, what Pollievre is currently virtue signalling to his Rebel News subscribers is absolutely terrifying…but it’s only possible because Carney made many of his previous election promises come true.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Literally, it’s just public servants.

Oh I see... fuck them then, amiright?

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

but on the US file he’s doing about as well as anyone could hope for, and hasn’t actually cut much

Ok bud you are dreaming...

He has given trump everything the idiot king wanted (short of the 51st State) and received nothing in return... and yes, he has cut the public service and services in general, deeper than Harper did and back then that was a disaster we have not fully recovered from

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago

Sounds like the good people of Brampton should at the very least stage some protests.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That would be the hard part about working in anything geopolitically relevant. Your government will have to do realpolitik, and you can't reasonably impose your own preferences over top of that and stay relevant, so you end up welding together anti-protester bumpers for the Saudis, or brown guy cages for the Americans. Hopefully all the sales to Ukraine make up for it.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

But you people said you didn't need anything from us...

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

djt and maybe his crew said that, not me.

[-] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 day ago

Okay Canadian assembly techs: you have an opportunity to do something extremely funny

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

What, Elon’s cyber trucks weren’t good enough for them?

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 21 hours ago

A thin silver lining is that Canada's siphoning some of the hyperinflated budget that is meant for a whole fascist concentration camp regime. Now if only we could get the horn to play "chinga la migra" occasionally when pressed...

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[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago
[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

ICE going to pay tarrifs for steel and alum, then tarrif again for vehicles.

[-] derry@midwest.social 10 points 13 hours ago

Except it's not ICE, it's taxpayers. And because enough of them are raging racist assholes he now live in a racist state . Fuck fascists

[-] orioler25@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Oh no, how unexpected. Who would think that the interests of capital and imperialism would take precedent over the wellbeing of the people in Canada?

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[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Eh … now you don’t know what to think huh?

What does this mean?

[-] MrDrProf@lemmy.ca 19 points 23 hours ago

It's an old Norm Macdonald punchline from his time at SNL. Op's joking that buying Canadian is good but ICE buying them is bad

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

Exactly! I thought of Norm when I wrote it, but forgot about it when I read this question. LOL What an amazing joke that was. 3 punchlines ... "you never seen anything like it" LOL.

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