It's so dumb. Just let people rate it with the five stars. They're so gun-ho with the algorithm let it do its job.
They don't want you knowing what other people think of the video. It's just about what you think of the video. Much easier to have an algorithmically perfect echo chamber if everyone is privately rating things and has no idea what others think about them.
Wouldn't the simplest solution be to only expose the other ratings after you rate?
It's all bots anyway
The thumbs up/thumbs down thing was fine too.
I'm pretty sure that 99% of the time 1 and 5 stars options were used, so like/dislike is enough. There isn't much point in including a "I have no strong feelings one way or another" button.
Sure there is: A known quantity is always better than an unknown quantity. Though would be far more informative if rating was mandatory, or otherwise defaulted to 3 stars or some such.
Then you start watching mostly your subscription list and they get angry their fancy algorithm isn't working.
There's a war on negative feedback.
It's not good for business.
Now be happy.
The thing is, people themselves outside of business motives hate negativity.
People regularly get angry at others for bringing up criticisms of everything from foods to their favourite media products.
Even decades ago they'd give them names like negative Nancy, and within social settings the worst people often can win by weaponizing civility to quell legitimate backlash against immoral actions.
I mean, fuck, think about how many stories you've heard of people who have been the victims of sexual assault, who get told by normal people to shut up and whose experiences were diminished because it harshed other peoples mellow?
People suck, and one of the biggest reasons people suck, is they would prefer a harmful peaceful positivity than a tumultuous improvement causing negativity.
I think these companies are hooking into these human flaws in ways that hurt us, and benefit them with information asymmetry.
I don't think we can properly fix these flaws without somehow getting normal people to acknowledge that negativity is not just good, but vitally important.
people themselves outside of business motives hate negativity.
I think these companies are hooking into these human flaws in ways that hurt us, and benefit them with information asymmetry.
Oh, companies know. Social media have definitive data that show most users engage on anger. That's why it's in their core interest to promote rage baits and disinformation. More engagements means more traffic. More traffic means more advertisers. More advertisers means more revenues.
Hell, even before social media, news tends to report more on negative news than positive ones. Because bad news is tantamount to hearing gossips, and we all love gossips. I know many of us will say bad news makes us sad, and yet we still tune in to any news.
People regularly get angry at others for bringing up criticisms of everything from foods to their favourite media products.
Kind of on a tangent, I notice this as well that some people seem more predisposed to negative thinking. I think it's just hardwired into them. Although, I have to say, in my field of work, negative thinkers tend to have good attention to detail. Being suspicious and mindful all the time, they will check every nooks and crannies, and examining and scanning for almost everything. It is a good trait to a limited degree, but it could impair relationships both at work and outside, if one is too suspicious and distrustful of everyone.
5 star rating are actually 4 star ratings with a free 20% boost.
Hate it. Gave my employer a bad review, 1-2 stars in most categories, and the average was still a 3.7?? I have to adjust my intuition when reading star reviews. Apparently 3.5 is bottom of the barrel.
The good news is: that reviews wasn’t really accurate.
The bad news is: that review wasn’t really anonymous.
My last day is Friday. :)
I've tried my best during the last seven years to make a change, both by lobbying upper management and introducing change in my team. Nothing stuck, nobody besides my team mates cared. So I hope it's not really anonymous. I'm clinging to the illusion they'll somehow take it to heart now that it's public, for the betterment of the team mates I leave behind.
Next step: you must have a camera enabed to use YouTube so we can directly monitor your facial expressions with AI✨ and save you precious rating time to recommend you better videos!
I know I am not alone here, because Lemmy and all, but holy god damn does that little AI sparkle trigger me more than any other AI term or image.
Funny enough the dislike button is there but hidden. You can get extensions that show the thumbs down button and how many clicked it.
I've wondered about those. I always assumed they'd just show the down votes by others with the same extension.
Yes but extrapolated
In my experience, the extension is INCREDIBLY good. Whenever I get a shady video, it has dislikes, and normal videos almost never have any significant amount of dislikes. They're as accurate as they can be but it's more than enough to be useful.
I can confirm. Really useful, I almost forgot it's suppose to be hiden.
Apparently the extensions aren't reliable at all. I saw a video at one point where a guy went over why you cannot trust the extensions and how the numbers are pure fiction, but I forget the exact reasons. I think one example was that the same video would have vastly differnet numbers of down votes depending on the person with the extension. Something something confirmation bias.
For me, it doesn't really matter. I still down vote when I dislike a video. They may not count my vote at all, but I still do it out of stubbornness.
They actually do count it but it's only visible to the uploader
Also, from what I understand about specifically ReturnYoutubeDislikes it counts dislikes FROM people using the extension and uses that to extrapolate from the visible like count. I haven't seen the video though so it's definitely possible that's all bunk
All I want to say is:
I rarely like any video so much that I want to give it a solid 👍
Its also pretty rare for 👎
But I'll rate stuff on a scale of ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ every day of the week.
Also, hiding 👎 is completely brain-dead stupid.
Anyone else notice that thumbs down is back, there just isn’t a counter. I’ve seen it for a few weeks now.
I'm pretty sure it never was different tho I usually use a plugin that shows thumbs-downs. It's basically guessing for new videos so it's not really useful but still
I'm pretty sure it counts the dislikes of the people who also have the extension installed, and extrapolates from that.
I get the first step. You don't watch a video and have the urge to tell the world that it was neither good nor bad. I think they moved to stars because everyone just gave 1 or 5 eitherway
Corporation does well: brags about all the statistics Corporation does poorly: hides all the statistics and asks customers to trust it that it's doing well
Classic corporate transparency. When a filthy corpo says they're dedicated to something, they're usually dedicated to the opposite.
My favorite is Amazon streaming that has a "rating for your taste out of 5 stars", but they don't want it to point out that most of their catalog is shit, so everything from Shawshank Redemption to Movie 43 are "4.5 stars for you"
Next step: you no longer can like or dislike the video.
Next step: you no longer choose a video, it just feeds it to you tiktok style
Eventually, mandatory video enemas are when things take a real turn.
The day when taking the phone to the toilet is mandatory
Old and busted: pop-up video
New hotness: pop-in video
The like/dislike system is better than stars IMO.
I disagree. There are a lot of videos that I find just "meh". I might not regret watching them, but wouldn't recommend them nor watch again.
Then there is content which I find pretty good/bad but not extremely good or bad. For such cases a more nuanced scale is better.
For other users this might be less informative, since they will be seeing just the average anyway and can therefore only determine general perception; except if the distribution is also made available.
But for a personalized recommendation system I think a nuanced scale can work better.
From a content creators perspective one can also evaluate better whether there is room for improvement and by "how much", in case one is interested in such.
I blame Netflix for starting this shit, and I blame everyone who subscribes to them for allowing it.
I do not know why to use Netflix in the first place if you can simply visit free streaming platforms like HDREZKA, watch a few ads and then enjoy your film. Yeah, ads can be annoying sometimes but, at least, all is free, content doesn't get removed simply because of it is no longer watched actively and no forced registration. And they also provide some useful features like the personal lists, collections, different sound records, history of publication for series and even the approximate schedule for the upcoming series which is really useful.
TBH, people often dislike bombed videos some pundit "disproved" it for them.
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